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Bryce Young will be the best QB ever in Charlotte

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8 hours ago, Sugar Greenwood said:

You can’t compare Jake’s Super Bowl performance to Cam’s.  The Ragin’ Cajun threw for over 300 yards with three TDs to zero interceptions.  He outplayed Tom Brady that night.  It definitely wasn’t his fault they came up short in that game.  I have the same amount of love for Cam, but he obviously wasn’t his best in SB 50.  As for Bryce Young…nah.

If only Cam had that 2003 OLine blocking for him...and a Moose/Smitty in their prime with Proehl working out of the slot instead of Jericho Cotchery/Philly Brown/Ted Ginn. Cam probably would have broke SB records too.

BTW this thread made me not want Bryce Young for whatever reason and I'm very torn between him and CJ. I have this feeling we might shock the entire NFL with a curveball

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47 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

i think they will draft stroud and we will cheer.  Tua and Murray, both rather smallish QBs, getting hurt this year may be enough to sway them to take the safer (healthwise) pick over the best processor.  We shall see.

Tua isn’t small, I don’t know why this is common thought. He’s a bit shorter than nfl average obviously but he’s not “small”. He just doesn’t know how to fall. Which is why he’s taking judo this off-season.

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5 minutes ago, Eric4280 said:

Tua isn’t small, I don’t know why this is common thought. He’s a bit shorter than nfl average obviously but he’s not “small”. He just doesn’t know how to fall. Which is why he’s taking judo this off-season.

The word was "smallish" which might imply that he is smaller than the average QB, which he is.

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3 hours ago, Eric4280 said:

This is just absolute nonsense. I’ll take the size crap. Not this lazy crap.

Yea but it's true.  When watching his highlights, on most of his long throws the receiver has to stop and turn around to catch the ball. Even at his pro day(where everything is scripted)there were only 2 catchable long balls.  When he throws them he has so much body movement it looks like he's throwing a hailmary, CJ barely moves his arm when throwing deep.  If we draft Bryce Young, I will support him, but I don't want a noodle armed QB 

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7 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

The word was "smallish" which might imply that he is smaller than the average QB, which he is.

But I just don’t get the point of it is? His size doesn’t really have to do with his ability to avoid concussions. Bryce is ALOT smaller than he is, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll suffer the same fate of injuries etc.

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Yea but it's true.  When watching his highlights, on most of his long throws the receiver has to stop and turn around to catch the ball. Even at his pro day(where everything is scripted)there were only 2 catchable long balls.  When he throws them he has so much body movement it looks like he's throwing a hailmary, CJ barely moves his arm when throwing deep.  If we draft Bryce Young, I will support him, but I don't want a noodle armed QB 

Exactly, young puts his whole body into it. CJ just flicks his wrist and throws bombs

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34 minutes ago, Eric4280 said:

But I just don’t get the point of it is? His size doesn’t really have to do with his ability to avoid concussions. Bryce is ALOT smaller than he is, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll suffer the same fate of injuries etc.

The STIGMA of smallish QBs (and running QBs for that matter) may influence a tough decision.  That was the point--and it was a mere suggestion not intended to be submitted into state's evidence seeking a prosecution.  It addresses human nature and bias---that's all.

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3 hours ago, rmoneyg35 said:

 Of course people always want to give him the excuse of “if he only had an all pro offensive line and 3 all pro WR then he would have been better” completely ignoring how other great QBs would have no offensive line or WRs and still put up better numbers. 

Lol this is such an absurd take. Over nine years, he had one excellent wide receiver for his first 3 years (Steve Smith). In his prime, his "#1 receivers" were Kelvin Benjamin, Ted Ginn and Devin Funchess. Not to mention the Shula offense which was reliant on his threat to run, of course he wasn't going to lead the league in passing yards.

And the offensive line, we just wanted functional - rather than relying on dudes like Matt Kalil, Chris Clark, Byron Bell, Nate Chandler, and Brian Folkerts to protect your best asset. Imagine if we surrounded this new rookie QB with trash like that how mad we'd be.

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