JT O'Sullivan's QB Rankings for 2023

[Ricky Spanish]

 

1. Bryce Young

2. CJ Stroud

3. Anthony Richardson

4. Will Levis

5. Hendon Hooker

 

Says he's seen both CJ and Bryce play at the elite 11 right next to each other. Holds a ton of weight for him apparently. Says Stroud would have had to play the same way he did against Georgia every game to be considered on Young's level.  Says Height is less of an issue than it was 15-20 years ago and Young should be fine in the pros. 

Also goes on to say that where they end up is a huge factor in determining how successful they will become, but as of now likes Young more for his ability to read the field and make high anticipatory throws more often than Stroud does. 

 

[jayboogieman]

Cue the fanboys.

I'm ready

[Wolfcop]

Players are bigger, stronger, and faster than they were 20 years ago. Size still matters a great deal and should be a concern, as it is. Young will get hit and his small frame will be tested. Huge gamble to take when you have a comparable talent on the board. 

[rayzor]

 

we'll win with whoever it is. 

[Wolfcop]

Dude barely talked about CJ. Just skipped right over him after saying he prefers Young. 

[stan786]

He comes around where I am, I think people undersell Young’s abilities because of his height and oversell Stroud’s upside out of the desire to hit on this pick. 
 

Young’s game is a good bit more compelling from the view of what I personally value and it 100% outweighs any size concerns in my eyes. 
 

Stroud throws an elite ball but he does enough mentally that makes me more nervous to how he’s going to translate, I will argue there are signs outside of the Georgia game that he has the potential but it’s just too scattershot for me. I also think dealing with pressure is something that doesn’t improve as much as people want to believe it does on the pros.

I don’t blame anyone for preferring Stroud I’m not an NFL evaluator so it’s just all discussion, but the longer this goes and the more games I watch the more I’m convinced Young is my choice.

End of the day I think nurture has a ton to do with QB development and I’m glad we have a great spot for a young guy and a great staff and if it is Stroud I’ll be all in. Just think I’ll be more surprised if he’s Elite than Young.

[SurvivalSloth]

"I don't care what the tape says". 

Well, how they perform in an ACTUAL football game is kind of important to this whole selections process. He's forming his opinion off of them throwing in shorts over a year ago.

[OldhamA]

23 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Says he's seen both CJ and Bryce play at the elite 11 right next to each other. Holds a ton of weight for him apparently. Says Stroud would have had to play the same way he did against Georgia every game to be considered on Young's level.  Says Height is less of an issue than it was 15-20 years ago and Young should be fine in the pros. 

 

LOL I respect his analysis, but damn judging the players based on who they were as High School Seniors...

[Ricky Spanish]

2 minutes ago, SurvivalSloth said:

"I don't care what the tape says". 

Well, how they perform in an ACTUAL football game is kind of important to this whole selections process. He's forming his opinion off of them throwing in shorts over a year ago.

Yeah that was interesting to me too. They both have extremely good tape as well, so who knows?

I'm good with either.

[CarolinaRideorDie]

The only reason why we are having this debate is because both Young and Stroud are great prospects. If there was only Young and no Stroud in this draft, it would be a no brainer to select Young and also vice versa for Stroud. I honestly believe that these 2 prospects will be pro bowl QBs in the near future. I think the biggest factor is Young's size and risk of injury that everyone is concerned about. 

If we play the scenario out that for the next 5 years these 2 QBs are guaranteed NOT to get injured at their respective height and weight, who would you pick? Lots of analysts would say Young for his skillset and this isn't anything against Stroud's skillset, Young is just that much better. 

[Wundrbread33]

So people clown Simms for his Wilson take a lot, and if you are one of those people, I encourage you to look at at JT’s top 5’s over the past few years to see if you are impressed. 

[CarolinaRideorDie]

32 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Says Stroud would have had to play the same way he did against Georgia every game to be considered on Young's level.  

If Frank Reich can convince our staff and the fans that he can get this level of production from Stroud then I'm sold.  

[raleigh-panther]

He more or less stated the obvious of what people have said here and elsewhere

Bryce   Size    There are 17 regular season games   I just don’t see him surviving it 

CJ   consistency as far as being that special player outside of the Georgia game                  And while CJ is likely the pick, personally, there is something about his personality that bothers me.   He is absolutely talented   Worked hard to be where he is but there is just something that troubles me.   Granted not as obvious as Levis 

AR  experience 
I really like AR.  what I said in February, I  still mean. What he has cannot be taught. What he needs can be    He won’t be the pick in any case.  Huge risk/reward 

both CJ and Bryce fit what the new OC wants (paraphrased play maker, point guard, in the final 2 mins, game on the line, go be Superman)….except neither Bryce or CJ fits ‘Superman’ athletically 

Edited April 5, 2023 by raleigh-panther

[Fright]

I'll just be real... I don't want a QB who looks like a 13 year old in our back field. -shrug-