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Albert Breer's insights on the Panthers and other Top 10 teams

Mr. Scot

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Breer has a lot more info here than just "I think the Panthers take Bryce Young".

Carolina war-room was definitely briefed not to say a word on who they're going for.  I'm sure all staff are under NDAs. The only info leaking is what they want to leak. If it's truly anything actually leaking.

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1 hour ago, XClown1986 said:

It seems like every year we start really hearing about who the Panthers want a couple of weeks or maybe a month beforehand, and it turns out to be the guy we take or the guy we wanted but was picked before us. I remember this happening in regards to Jon Beason, Jonathan Stewart, Cam Newton, Kelvin Benjamin, Shaq Thompson, Christian McCaffrey, DJ Moore, Jaycee Horn, CJ Henderson (got overruled, but the interest was real enough to trade for him later), Ickey was the gem for them last year and they were so stunned to see him available. It just doesn't seem like there has been a lot of real "smokescreens." Usually the intel that leaks is pretty reliable. This usually leads to the fan base interpreting the leak as fact or fiction, usually based on whether or not the fan likes the guy that gains steam. If they do: "it's happening!" if they don't: "smokescreen to trick other teams. Totally."

I remember being baffled by Jonathan Stewart after drafting Deangelo and dismissed it as absurd, but it was legit. I remember thinking the Cam Newton steam seemed inflated and really remember being pissed it was real (I was wrong guys, I admit it. Cam was a great pick). But history shows, the name that seems to become associated with the team more and more, ends up being the guy. Draft pundits have pretty much nailed our picks in recent years. 

I felt the same way the next year when we drafted Luke… Right after signing Beason. It’s still a running joke between my brother and I when we make a pick I don’t like I say, “I haven’t hated a pick this much since Luke!” Haha so glad I was wrong! 

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1 hour ago, rayzor said:

i think the texans probably have it narrowed down to 1 QB they will do anything for and if they can't get him, they'll go another direction.

texans have a defensive minded coach so it shouldn't be a surprise that fixing the offense won't be as crucial in his mind as it would offensive coaches.

If this board is any indication of the Panthers' mindset, then I would expect the Panthers to be willing to go with Stroud or Young--so I make that trade and I get a 2024 first rounder.  That could be the plan--doubtful--but if there is a situation in which they are playing rock paper scissors or drawing straws---do it.

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1 hour ago, SOJA said:

I still maintain the Panthers really like both Stroud and Young and are really trying to get the Texans to trade up one spot. 

My evidence is the fug ton of reports coming out that we like Young AND the new reports that "Houston may be ok passing on a QB"

They're both trying to smokescreen each other. 

I'm fine with either Stroud or Young personally, though I give a slight edge to Stroud. But you can bet your ass if Houston offered me #33 overall or their first next year I'd be more than happy to take their sloppy seconds at 2

I hope that it does happen because I strongly believe they are all in for Stroud but want to get picks back and swap with the Texans. 

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1 hour ago, XClown1986 said:

It seems like every year we start really hearing about who the Panthers want a couple of weeks or maybe a month beforehand, and it turns out to be the guy we take or the guy we wanted but was picked before us. I remember this happening in regards to Jon Beason, Jonathan Stewart, Cam Newton, Kelvin Benjamin, Shaq Thompson, Christian McCaffrey, DJ Moore, Jaycee Horn, CJ Henderson (got overruled, but the interest was real enough to trade for him later), Ickey was the gem for them last year and they were so stunned to see him available. It just doesn't seem like there has been a lot of real "smokescreens." Usually the intel that leaks is pretty reliable. This usually leads to the fan base interpreting the leak as fact or fiction, usually based on whether or not the fan likes the guy that gains steam. If they do: "it's happening!" if they don't: "smokescreen to trick other teams. Totally."

I remember being baffled by Jonathan Stewart after drafting Deangelo and dismissed it as absurd, but it was legit. I remember thinking the Cam Newton steam seemed inflated and really remember being pissed it was real (I was wrong guys, I admit it. Cam was a great pick). But history shows, the name that seems to become associated with the team more and more, ends up being the guy. Draft pundits have pretty much nailed our picks in recent years. 

I think we wanted OT Dawkins and then Buffalo jumped ahead of us and drafted him, leaving us to pick Moton.

That was Marty Hurney taking Stewart--drafted him off the operating table--a running back--a year after drafting another RB in the first---then traded up to grab Otah.  The next year, he makes up for it by drafting Everette Brown.  Then he makes up for that by drafting Jimmy Clausen after 2 teams that needed QBs desperately at the time (Chiefs, Vikings) passed on him--- twice (first AND second rounds). In fact, Marty spent the night between rounds 1 and 2 trying to convince the Rams to trade the 33rd pick to him--I think that was the same draft that he traded up to get Armanti Edwards because the Colts bluffed interest in him.   

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