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if we do not trade down,  we will pick Young. My preference, which never is the Panthers thankfully since I am a dumbass, would be to trade with houston and then select AR. AR is my favorite just because I think with this coaching staff, he would be the most exciting long term source of entertainment. He can run it and throw it. On day two we try for an edge rusher but I think we end up with a CB. Hopefully both. I always fall in love with some obscure prospect for way late in the draft. This year I fell for charlie jones receiver and antonio mafi the guard. 

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Bryce Young will be the pick, he'll show plenty of things in his first couple years that has fans excited over him.

But by the end of his rookie contract people will realize we made a mistake and took a guy who is injury prone and we'll be debating whether it's worth paying $40 million a year for a QB who only can play 10-12 games a season and likely misses playoff games like Lamar due to being injured late in the season.

That's my prediction, don't @ me on it in the next year when he shows flashes of being a good player, come talk to me in 4 years when he can't stay on the field.

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1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

Bryce Young will be the pick, he'll show plenty of things in his first couple years that has fans excited over him.

But by the end of his rookie contract people will realize we made a mistake and took a guy who is injury prone and we'll be debating whether it's worth paying $40 million a year for a QB who only can play 10-12 games a season and likely misses playoff games like Lamar due to being injured late in the season.

That's my prediction, don't @ me on it in the next year when he shows flashes of being a good player, come talk to me in 4 years when he can't stay on the field.

Former Cards GM Steve Keim was on Cowherd today and said their analytic team found no correlation between injuries and size. Big QB (a special guy here for example) can get hurt too.

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8 minutes ago, PantherKyle said:

Former Cards GM Steve Keim was on Cowherd today and said their analytic team found no correlation between injuries and size. Big QB (a special guy here for example) can get hurt too.

I'm so sick of this argument

As The Athletic's article today points out, since 2000 there have been 368 QB's who have played in the league, only 9 of them have been under 6 feet.  Yes, as I've said it's not about his height, but his frame/weight/bulk, but that number would be even smaller if looking for players of Young's size.

To make any significant revelation based on a sample size like that, it's just flat out ignorant and is only used by teams publicly as a way to help sell it to their fan base.

Nobody arguing against Young due to his size is saying bigger QB's are guaranteed to stay healthier, but it's just common sense to say a 5'10" 190 lbs QB has a higher probability to get injured than someone 6'2" and 215 lbs.  Yes, anyone could get hurt on any given play, but if you put those two sized QB's up for comparison and you had to pick one or the other as to who is more likely to get injured, you'd have to be fooling yourself to say there isn't even a slightly better chance of the smaller player being injured more often than the bigger player there.

No, there are no guarantees, but the people asking for past examples/proof of smaller QB's being more injury prone, and leaning on a sample size of 9 out of 368, is just completely asinine in itself.

Hell, even if all 9 of those guys kept getting hurt and thus helping my argument, I'd still say it's far too small of a sample size to be used in these discussions.

 

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