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13 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I think that's pretty spot on. I would say 7-10 wins are about the band I would expect to see us be. Anything less or more would be a surprised. 

It is a lot of turnover on the roster and obviously with the staff. I would say we probably shouldn't be expecting Superb Owl's in Year One.

Who’s talking Super Bowl? I’m expecting at least a 2 win improvement over last year, otherwise we are stuck in the same predicament called mediocrity. Hopefully Tepper agrees…

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14 minutes ago, weyco2000 said:

Who’s talking Super Bowl? I’m expecting at least a 2 win improvement over last year, otherwise we are stuck in the same predicament called mediocrity. Hopefully Tepper agrees…

I am sure we will get at least a few. You know that there are always a few true believers.

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17 hours ago, La Pantera said:

7.5 is fair for a rookie QB.

Damn that, I have to go over on this. We won 7 games last year in a turd tornado. Also, I'd put down a couple of hundred for us to take the NFCS at those odds. ATL is the only competition I see there.

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4 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

What is preposterous is saying Young has a high probability of getting to 9 wins or more. 2 to 4 wins is typical. For the amount the Panthers paid, he should have a winning season in year 1.

Peyton Manning 3 wins (failed with original coach)

John Elway 4 wins (failed with original coach)

Steve Young 1 win (failed with drafted team)

Troy Aikman 0 wins

Joe Namath 3 wins

Terry Bradshaw 3 wins

Jim Plunkett 6 wins (failed with drafted team)

Eli Manning 1 win

Matthew Stafford 2 wins (failed with drafted team)

All the SB winning QBs selected #1. Their rookie wins. Average is 2.6 wins.

Circumstances matter more than statistics. Traditionally, teams that pick qb at one overall have a ton of holes, non competitive, worst in the league talent. We are nowhere near that and I think heavily improved compared to last year. That’s why I’m honestly EXPECTING less of a grace period for success compared to others. Youngs biggest strength to me, is his brain, and that’s usually the part that needs “catching on” for the nfl game. Carr and Jessie Bates don’t make me fear these other teams all that much. Obviously anything can happen but it’s amazing to think we could be the WORST team in the league.

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16 hours ago, ladypanther said:

This coaching staff could have gotten a few more wins out of last year's team.  I am doing the ultimate positive homer thing and saying I expect at least 10 wins.

that we be an insane finish for a new coaching staff and new rookie QB.

There's definitely at least some precedent for very early rookie QB success at least. R. Wilson, Luck, RG3, Mac Jones, Justin Herbert, Burrow, Cam. Probably some others I'm forgetting. 

I'm pretty sure Luck and RG3 both went to the playoffs in their rookie years and the both went 1 and 2 overall respectively. That was definitely an anomaly that year. Even though RG3 flamed out not long afterwards and Luck had a career cut short due to injuries eventually. They were both good right out of the gate tho and had immediate success. 

 

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32 minutes ago, Pantha-kun said:

that we be an insane finish for a new coaching staff and new rookie QB.

There's definitely at least some precedent for very early rookie QB success at least. R. Wilson, Luck, RG3, Mac Jones, Justin Herbert, Burrow, Cam. Probably some others I'm forgetting. 

I'm pretty sure Luck and RG3 both went to the playoffs in their rookie years and the both went 1 and 2 overall respectively. That was definitely an anomaly that year. Even though RG3 flamed out not long afterwards and Luck had a career cut short due to injuries eventually. They were both good right out of the gate tho and had immediate success. 

 

This is not your typical new coaching staff.  HC has experience and is an experienced play caller. DC also not new to his role.  The staff includes two wise old advisors...1 on each side of the ball.  Team is not trying to turn around from a 1 win season.  Roster is set up well for a rookie QB...lots of vet talent.  Bryce is not walking in to the typical 1st draft pick team.  Best QB room this team has had in a while with Dalton there to back up.  Therefore, I think 10 wins is doable.

 

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