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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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37 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Howell's scrambling ability and Ron's hot seat status combine to make me nervous. God knows Ron will run a QB into the ground. Washington has a much better receiver corps than Cam ever did but that OL has some serious questions.

CRA just recently spent an extended amount of time arguing to me that Rivera could be just as trusted to develop Bryce Young as Reich 😕

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2 hours ago, KillerKat said:

"But but Rivera is a good head coach"

 

Get TF outta here. He never was and never will be. He has Cam and Luke to thank for the longevity of his career. Without them, his head coaching career wouldve ended in 2013 or 2014.

Imagine wasting not one, but TWO hall of famers in their prime on the same team and not getting a superbowl. Rivera should have been canned after that Bills game where his defense let EJ Manuel of all people drive down the field for a game winning TD.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

CRA just recently spent an extended amount of time arguing to me that Rivera could be just as trusted to develop Bryce Young as Reich 😕

All I'll say is that I wasn't exactly happy about Howell landing with Rivera. I liked that o saw a clear path to him being the best QB on the roster pretty early on, but I didn't trust Ron to A) recognize that and B) develop him as an NFL QB. I hope Bieniemy wasn't just a product of Andy Reid.

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9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

CRA just recently spent an extended amount of time arguing to me that Rivera could be just as trusted to develop Bryce Young as Reich 😕

You simply insisted someone explain to you how Ron would do it.

and I informed you Ron wouldn’t develop the QB.  He would hire a QB coach and an OC and they would do that job.   Which continues to be true.  How that would go? Depends on the hires.  And QB.  

so again, if you hire a defensive HC….which isn’t my preference….it comes down to who they hire to do it.  Which is what a defensive HC is supposed to do.  

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2 minutes ago, CRA said:

You simply insisted someone explain to you how Ron would do it.

and I informed you Ron wouldn’t develop the QB.  He would hire a QB coach and an OC and they would do that job.   Which continues to be true.  How that would go? Depends on the hires.  And QB.  

so again, if you hire a defensive HC….which isn’t my preference….it comes down to who they hire to do it.  Which is what a defensive HC is supposed to do.  

Like he did here? 🤔

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Like he did here? 🤔

Yes.  Ron hired a QB coach and an OC.   Pretty well documented.  And Shula was largely regarded as good QB coach and move at the the time.   In hindsight did his hires and Cam lead to what we all wanted? No. But again, defensive coaches hire that job out.   That’s what they do and are supposed to do.  Doesn’t mean they hit on the right coaches.  Go look at the track record of 1st round QBs.  Or #1 overall.  Cam did somehow rewrite the record books as ROY and go on to be league MVP.   Wouldn’t call it the failure some pimp it as. 

But the boogeyman Ron has been gone for some time.  And Ron/Cam brought us the highest highs we have seen to date. But I prefer to talk about the offensive variant of Ron/Fox we just hired.  The relevant coach. 

 
 

 

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2 hours ago, CRA said:

Yes.  Ron hired a QB coach and an OC.   Pretty well documented.  And Shula was largely regarded as good QB coach and move at the the time.   In hindsight did his hires and Cam lead to what we all wanted? No. But again, defensive coaches hire that job out.   That’s what they do and are supposed to do.  Doesn’t mean they hit on the right coaches.  Go look at the track record of 1st round QBs.  Or #1 overall.  Cam did somehow rewrite the record books as ROY and go on to be league MVP.   Wouldn’t call it the failure some pimp it as. 

But the boogeyman Ron has been gone for some time.  And Ron/Cam brought us the highest highs we have seen to date. But I prefer to talk about the offensive variant of Ron/Fox we just hired.  The relevant coach. 

Yeah, we went through this "Rivera successfully developed Cam "argument already.

Like I said elsewhere, it's some of your finest bullsh-t 😂

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4 hours ago, Chaos said:

There is being unintelligent and making an egregious error, but then it takes a special kind of stupid to blatantly call yourself out on it.

 

Ron is a great guy all around, but has always lacked the head coach gene, but got by on an immensely talented roster and being gifted a #1 overall generational QB specimen as his welcome to Carolina gift.

 

With that roster....damn, what could have been, with competence from the GM down to the coaching staff

It takes a “special kind of stupid” to admit your mistakes?

 

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