Fitterer setting low expectations.

[Mr. Scot]

18 minutes ago, Camp Fodder said:

Not sure it set us back. We were 15-1 and in the SB 2 years later 

I'm not either, but I remember that being a theory some folks here bought into.

[Luciu5]

37 minutes ago, Smithers said:

Idk - at the end of the day it’s a business and his reputation and career is on the line.  Why take the blame for endless failed draft picks (especially when the other guy happily blamed you) unless you had a part in it.  I get taking the high road and all, but it’s a sorry frog that doesn’t croak for his own Lilly pad. Especially when your reputation is on the line.  

Taking the high road in public is the right thing to do, and doesn't matter at all. Behind closed doors, people in the building knows what's what. Maybe that is Fitterer, maybe it's Rhule, maybe it's Tepper making the picks. Everyone in those meetings knows who was making each pick, where there were disagreements and when people deferred and who was overruled entirely. They all know, and there is absolutely 0 reason to air whatever laundry at a press conference.

Good leaders take responsibilty. They don't throw people under the bus in public.

[tukafan21]

32 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Such crap. Already making excuses. Really good idea to trade a potential top 5 pick next year if you are in it for a rebuild. A complete joke. 

Only way we gift the Bears a top 5 pick is if Bryce gets hurt or this staff really screws up.

We weren’t even a top 5 pick this year, I think people forget at times that we traded up to #1 and that we weren’t the worst team in the league.

We had the 9th pick, upgraded the roster at every position other than WR #1 (but improved the room) and people think we’re going to be worse this year.

Make it make sense

[pantherj]

3 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I think much of this is an odd overreaction that many around here have had and I struggle to understand why, because all of the following are true……

Bryce, even as a rookie should be better than what we had at QB last year.  
We brought back the entire OL

Sanders is an upgrade over Foreman (no, not over CMC but we were terrible when we had CMC, didn’t go on the run we did till after he was gone)

Yes losing Moore hurts, but our overall WR room is better than it was last year.

Defense really didn’t lose anyone of significance while we added a few good pieces.

Coaching staff as a whole is significantly improved.

When you take a 7 win team and then do everything noted above, I don’t get the doom and gloom some people have with saying it will take time.  I think we’ll be decent pretty quickly, there really isn’t any reason for them not to be when you look at it like the above.  But I also don’t think we’re legitimate contenders, I think we’re a 7-9 win team who will be in almost every game in the 4th quarter and challenge for the division or a WC spot.

 

If you really want to come up with prediction of how our season is going to go, then don't compare last season's team to this season's team. Compare our roster to the rosters of teams we're going to play this season. We're not playing the teams we played last season this season. I think Vegas has us at 7 wins the last time I looked. I think that is a bit generous, but not that far off.

[Pup McBarky]

32 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

So he basically said we will have growing pains early but look better by year end and people think it’s a complete rebuild? What am I missing??

You strike me as someone who isn't here just for attention nor someone who reasons like a child. Those would be a couple of reasons for some of the more stupid reactionary responses here. It's also why I rarely post during the season. Just brain-numbingly stupid and frustrating.

[Manna]

I don't care. Just win. 

[Tbe]

9 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

This is what gets me. You trade away a elite talent in DJ Moore and you trade future picks. Why do all that and still say we are rebuilding.

 

 

How do you rebuild without those picks?

 

Tepper is a clown!

I think in a few years the idea of passing on Bryce in order to keep DJ Moore and a few picks will sound pretty dumb.

[Mr. Scot]

36 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

So he basically said we will have growing pains early but look better by year end and people think it’s a complete rebuild? What am I missing??

Emotional reactions?

[mrcompletely11]

29 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

This is what gets me. You trade away a elite talent in DJ Moore and you trade future picks. Why do all that and still say we are rebuilding.

 

 

How do you rebuild without those picks?

 

Tepper is a clown!

Its almost as if you didnt listen to us when we clearly explained to you what this season is.

[Tbe]

2 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Oh I hope you're right. My thing is this franchise has accepted losing. Every year it's the same thing. Fans are fed up with the losing culture.

 

I think Bryce will be elite sooner than later. I just hope they find a way to get him some on offense. Maybe that happens in FA next year who knows.

WR’s in FA and OL in the 2nd. We have to draft OL. You can’t get quality in FA anymore.

[panthers55]

Actually he said that if things work out as he hopes, the goal of the team is to win the division and he felt that was obtainable.  Well if we win the division we get a home playoff game.  So he didn't exactly pump the brakes either. He said we might start off slow but would finish very strong.

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I listened I just refuse to accept a losing culture. I was buying into what Frank was preaching about contending right away. I thought with Rhule gone we would finally see change.

 

 

Kid you are getting angry over 2 completely different things.  Whether you "refuse to accept a losing culture" has no bearing on the path of this season.  New coach, new scheme, new rookie qb.  One has to be either super young (as I suspect you are) or totally irrational (or could be this one) to think just because we "won" 7 games last season over dog poo teams and almost back doored us into the playoffs that we should be some juggernaut this year.   These things take time, we explained it do you and you refused to listen now the fuging GM of the team is saying the exact same thing and you are refusing to listen.  Thats on you.

[mrcompletely11]

7 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I listened I just refuse to accept a losing culture. I was buying into what Frank was preaching about contending right away. I thought with Rhule gone we would finally see change.

 

 

Also please point me to the quote where frank said we are contending right away

[thunderraiden]

1 hour ago, d-dave said:

I think we're going to play our best ball in the 2nd half of the year.  The first few weeks - everyone is going to be figuring out how to play together and we're going to have a lot of close misses on things.  It just takes time.

We could luck into a bad division and be playing for the playoffs at the end of the season again.  I think that's completely possible, and I wouldn't be opposed to that one bit!

I think the first two games we could steal some wins but after that its not going to be until after the bye week or a couple more weeks after until this team starts clicking, and it'll be a boatrace all the way to January in the division.

Easy schedule is easy schedule at the end of the day. we're starting 2-4 but after the BYE its Houston, Bears, Colts, Titans.. like come on..

Edited August 31, 2023 by thunderraiden