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1 hour ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

@mrcompletely11 Fitt said the playoffs are obtainable.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

sure they are obtainable, but its not realistic, that was more of a generic type coach speak and I suspect you know this.  Of course he is going to say the goal is to win, why wouldnt he say that?

 

1 hour ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

So if the goal is to win. Why can't I think making the playoffs are realistic!

 

My goodness man how hard is that to accept. It's not a crime to think playoffs are realistic in this weak division.

I agree with both of you playoffs are obtainable not that realistic but obtainable if things go our way. Also I think he’s trying to lower expectations so if we over deliver it’ll be a major bonus for where we’re at in this rebuild. First yes we’ve been rebuilding for awhile but it was with a coach who doesn’t know how to build. So we had to restart the process to try to get it right.

Let me jump into the playoffs now argument if we step outside of our team and scan the NFC it makes things a little clearer. I’ll try to give a quick assessment teams with elite talent all around and top notch coaching they should be put ahead of us as of now things do change in the league fast but we’re using realistic what we know now judgements…49ers Seahawks Phila Dallas NYG (you choose Minn/GB somebody has to represent the N both have playmakers a strong Oline and GB has a good defense) you could swap Det for the NYG that leaves one playoff spot left. Vegas and the rest of the nfl world has the Saints winning the division from the outside in it’s makes sense. Vet QB strong Oline multiple playmakers on offense (rookie of the year WR offensive player of the year MT) a top ranked defense and a coaching staff who’s returning not like us just learning a scheme. Or an aging but still good WR AT oft injured WR Chark and young inexperienced Mingo/TMJ. If you watch a lot of football it makes pure sense to say it can happen it’s obtainable but it’s more of stretch then we like to admit. Who’s more likely to perform better a vet with weapons all around him or a rookie with a few good pieces around him. No matter how large my homer glasses are it’s hard to say we with this roster out preform these teams weekly and make the playoffs when all those other teams are ahead of us in talent and cohesion and that’s what matters most. But I’ll still probably put 200 on us to win the NFC at Kings Mtn tomorrow because it pays out 10k and I’m a big time homer.

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Well part of the unrealistic fan base expectations has its origin with the Panthers media. They kept writing pieces that made it appear that Young was some sort of god-tier wunderkind who is practically a coach on the field. They stopped, but it's too late. Casual fans are expecting Tom Brady or Joe Montana out there.

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3 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Im so sick of Tepper. This is clearly coming from him. Fitt is not the guy to blame we are in this situation because of Tepper. The expectations have always been low since he took over the franchise. This guy needs to sell the team.

 

Keep Pounding is no longer a thing in the Carolina's. Fans are saying the season is over before it even starts. This is our culture now. It's now cool to say we are years away from making noise.

 

2027 will be our year!

Just because some dipshit like @GOAT throws a hissy fit on a message board, it does not mean that is our culture

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30 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Well, if Rhule said it...

(we all know we can count on his honesty and transparency) 🫥

No.  Rhule didn't just say it.  Everyone involved has said it.  When they came on board and when they left.   It's been consistent.  Fitt just once again, confirmed again.  

you have your own narrative.  That is largely from the media repeating the same story over and over because someone happened to hear about a line in a contact.   And that was always addressed in real time too when Fitt was hired. 

But you pick and choose who is lying and why they are lying.  Fitt is a liar too.  But a noble one lol. 

we paired a newb GM w/ an unqualified college coach and it went predictably.  Fitt at least owns it.  You should accept he had a role in it and move on. 

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9 minutes ago, CRA said:

No.  Rhule didn't just say it.  Everyone involved has said it.  When they came on board and when they left.   It's been consistent.  Fitt just once again, confirmed again.  

you have your own narrative.  That is largely from the media repeating the same story over and over because someone happened to hear about a line in a contact.  And that was always addressed in real time too when Fitt was hired. 

But you pick and choose who is lying and why they are lying.  Fitt is a liar too.  But a noble one lol. 

we paired a newb GM w/ an unqualified college coach and it went predictably.  Fitt at least owns it.  You should accept he had a role in it and move on. 

Yeah...know how I know you haven't read any of the actual articles? 😄

(honestly that's also pretty funny coming from someone who always says that his own narrative is more reliable than what the insiders write)

Have fun sticking with the "Rhule didn't really have full control" narrative though. That one's especially hilarious 😁

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22 minutes ago, trucpfan said:

 

 

I agree with both of you playoffs are obtainable not that realistic but obtainable if things go our way. Also I think he’s trying to lower expectations so if we over deliver it’ll be a major bonus for where we’re at in this rebuild. First yes we’ve been rebuilding for awhile but it was with a coach who doesn’t know how to build. So we had to restart the process to try to get it right.

Let me jump into the playoffs now argument if we step outside of our team and scan the NFC it makes things a little clearer. I’ll try to give a quick assessment teams with elite talent all around and top notch coaching they should be put ahead of us as of now things do change in the league fast but we’re using realistic what we know now judgements…49ers Seahawks Phila Dallas NYG (you choose Minn/GB somebody has to represent the N both have playmakers a strong Oline and GB has a good defense) you could swap Det for the NYG that leaves one playoff spot left. Vegas and the rest of the nfl world has the Saints winning the division from the outside in it’s makes sense. Vet QB strong Oline multiple playmakers on offense (rookie of the year WR offensive player of the year MT) a top ranked defense and a coaching staff who’s returning not like us just learning a scheme. Or an aging but still good WR AT oft injured WR Chark and young inexperienced Mingo/TMJ. If you watch a lot of football it makes pure sense to say it can happen it’s obtainable but it’s more of stretch then we like to admit. Who’s more likely to perform better a vet with weapons all around him or a rookie with a few good pieces around him. No matter how large my homer glasses are it’s hard to say we with this roster out preform these teams weekly and make the playoffs when all those other teams are ahead of us in talent and cohesion and that’s what matters most. But I’ll still probably put 200 on us to win the NFC at Kings Mtn tomorrow because it pays out 10k and I’m a big time homer.

Denis Allen invalidates every point you're making about NO. The only coach in the NFL right now worst than Matt Rhule resides in New Orleans. There is no other coach in NFL history except one that is worst than Denis Allen.

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20 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I would be happy to be the clown leading the parade. 

 

While my comment was in jest I truly believe there are people in here that would be upset because they would be wrong.  We have a couple Anti-Brycers, Anti-Reichers, and I think some have turned into all out Anti-Panthers.  I am ok with skepticism and realistic expectations but man I don't know why some of these people are even still following the team.  

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