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Post Mortem: Game 1

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2 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

nice post, keeping it less reactionary..but...

I don't think it's out of bounds to say Bryce's accuracy was pretty off today and it just wasn't the best performance.  We can say that without crying out he's a bust or anything like that.  

He had a few good moments but I actually thought he seemed a tad anxious back there and was throwing behind, sailed a few as well.  Had one very nice drive that showed promise.  

The entire passing game is what I found disappointing.  Play design, play calls, and Young.  It's unfortunate, particularly because this is what we've been used to and wanted to be rid of, and were promised to be rid of. 

Onto next week.  Better look a whole lot more competent.  I'll give Bryce time, but the playbook didn't look pretty off the bat.  

He tailed off as the game went on, but that's not really a huge surprise for a rookie.

Haven't seen a load of rookie first games in my time, I can definitely tell you I've seen way worse 😄

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Well my feelings are all the same as they have been 

- Frank shouldn’t be calling plays 

- we need better skill talent around Bryce.   We lack the type players that can really help a rookie that is isn’t going to be threatening deep. 

- we should of added more depth to the backfield 

- it’s a rebuild so I don’t care about w/l.  Care about what we are doing to help Bryce grow.  And I think the front office could have done a better job at that than they did in terms of the bodies around him on O. 

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7 minutes ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

A lot of us are tired of reading your conjecture. Having 100,000 post doesn’t mean you’re right about anything. The coaching staff looked like what many of us thought. And Young was disappointing. You can look promising as a rookie QB. Today, he did not. 

You know, you’re not required to read any post by any one ?? I mean I think you can even block them . 
The whining on here today was worse than when Rhule was here..  in my opinion. 

why do posters feel to need to whine .. they only post on a bad play,, 

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4 minutes ago, CRA said:

Well my feelings are all the same as they have been 

- Frank shouldn’t be calling plays 

- we need better skill talent around Bryce.   We lack the type players that can really help a rookie that is isn’t going to be threatening deep. 

- we should of added more depth to the backfield 

- it’s a rebuild so I don’t care about w/l.  Care about what we are doing to help Bryce grow.  And I think the front office could have done a better job at that than they did in terms of the bodies around him on O. 

Who should be calling plays then?

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7 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

This is what they signed up for when they drafted Young.

If he succeeds he'll be Brees-lite, shredding you laterally until you overcompensate and he can hit a deep pass. It's a dink and dunk offence that has to be absolutely perfect in it's execution though - but that's his (physical) skill set. 

That’s a lot of draft capital if that is your plan.  

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5 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

This is what they signed up for when they drafted Young.

If he succeeds he'll be Brees-lite, shredding you laterally until you overcompensate and he can hit a deep pass. It's a dink and dunk offence that has to be absolutely perfect in it's execution though - but that's his (physical) skill set. 

You are woefully underrating his skill set. If anything, his skill set was muted by the receivers today, and murdered by the coaching staff. This game was in many ways a testament as to why you need to give rookies at skill positions more work during the preseason. Chemistry isn't just something to say, it's a real thing. 

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14 minutes ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

A lot of us are tired of reading your conjecture. Having 100,000 post doesn’t mean you’re right about anything. The coaching staff looked like what many of us thought. And Young was disappointing. You can look promising as a rookie QB. Today, he did not. 

For as much time as Bryce had to throw I think he made too many mistakes.

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We don't have the WRs that can take the top off of a defense with Chark out, and to be totally honest I don't know how much of a difference he makes.

This team is already banged up with Chark, Thielen, and Sanders not at full speed.  We have 1 tight end who is actually competent in both phases of the run/pass game.

As for our D - we are going to get gashed by teams who can run the ball and lit up by teams who can throw it.  Atlanta is not a good team and we'll face much better down the line.

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      How am I all over the place?  I'm still saying that. I'm saying that Chark at his best and T-Mac right now, on the same team right now for the 2025 season, T-Mac would be ahead of him on the depth chart Week 1. Because in the same way everyone is saying, "T-Mac hasn't played a snap in the NFL yet", the very same is true to say, "nothing Chark did in his past matters moving forward" His peak was a 1,008 yard season where he was the only decent WR on a terrible team.  He didn't put up the 1k yard season because he was a great WR, it was because of how bad the rest of them on the team were. His stats aren't the same as his ability, and his ability was never all that good to begin with. Hell, most of this board agrees that T-Mac is our #1 right now, even if Thielen is Bryce's #1 option early in the saeson just because of the comfort level there, he's still just a slot safety valve and T-Mac is our #1. If you put peak Chark on the roster RIGHT NOW (even without T-Mac)... is anyone even putting him over Thielen, XL, or Coker going into this season? I'm honestly not sure many of us would consider him as such, because even at his best, he was just a JAG.  So if the same people who are okay with T-Mac being ahead of those guys right now, wouldn't put Chark above them, how can you in the same breath say Chark was better than T-Mac already is now?
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      Dude... you're just all over the place. You're the one who said T-Mac is better right now than Chark was at his best.
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