Could Both Fitterer and Reich Be Safer Than We Think?

[tukafan21]

The entire fan base wants Fitterer gone and many have already given up on Reich.  To us fans, it seems obvious that Fitterer is already on borrowed time and it's only a matter of when, not if he'll be fired, with the day after the season ends being the longest he might stick around.

But I was just thinking about it, and if the fans are right and Tepper forced them to pick Bryce, particularly if both of them liked Stroud more, could that buy both of them much more leeway than we've been considering?

Yes, I know the team has a lot of problems, but when your biggest problem is the QB's play, if the owner forced the pick over what both the HC and GM wanted, it might be hard for him to then fire them all too quickly.

Particularly as if say he did fire Fitterer soon, if Tepper forced that pick over what they wanted, there is basically a 100% chance that information gets "leaked" out there, and that would make it quite difficult for Tepper to attract a quality candidate to take the GM role moving forward.  If the owner is forcing such an important decision like that over the objections of both the GM and HC, then I can't see any quality GM candidate ever considering the job.

 

 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

Tepper doesn't seem like a guy with enough humility for this to be the case. If he forced the Bryce pick I think he's most likely to blame everyone else for why this kid that he himself identified isn't lighting the league up like he should be.

[WhoKnows]

Stop it with the if they were forced. Scott and Frank had a damn love fest for Young. Frank even called it a proposal. They both got interviewed about it and I think it was Scott that said they told each other at the same time after the evaluation and both said Young. They even mentioned that Young was on top at the start and finish of their evaluation.

Here’s one of many articles that basically said everyone wanted Young from the start through the end:

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/.amp/gm-report/what-scott-fitterer-frank-reich-said-about-bryce-young 

The Tepper forced their hand poo is just BS. Reich has sucked as a coach so far and Fitt has sucked as a GM. Simple as that.

[pantherj]

If Tepper is overriding Fitt, then we, and no one, has any possible way of evaluating Fitt. We're all in the dark if Tepper is running the show. Even Tepper won't be able to determine if Fitt is doing a good job or not, BECAUSE TEPPER IS DOING HIS JOB. However, in listening to Tepper in interviews it sounds like he's staying in his lane and letting everyone do their jobs. 

[travisura]

I've seen people on here say that Fitt and Reich are both going to be fired after next week, so yes, I think the Huddle's expectations are a little off (shocking, I know). 

They both are going to be here at the end of the year, and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they are both here through the entirety of next season, too. 

[Waldo]

As long as they can put up with and manipulate a boss who is angry and clueless they have a job. All the talk of change was pure hope until Tepper decides to realize how bad it is and he is absolutely a clueless clown still. Anyone could keep selling that idiot a hope of turning it around. 

I do wonder how he is going to like the hostile home crowd at 0-6. There is so much of this season left and it's looking so bad still. 

[tukafan21]

1 minute ago, WhoKnows said:

Stop it with the if they were forced. Scott and Frank had a damn love fest for Young. Frank even called it a proposal. They both got interviewed about it and I think it was Scott that said they told each other at the same time after the evaluation and both said Young. They even mentioned that Young was on top at the start and finish of their evaluation.

Here’s one of many articles that basically said everyone wanted Young from the start through the end:

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/.amp/gm-report/what-scott-fitterer-frank-reich-said-about-bryce-young 

The Tepper forced their hand poo is just BS. Reich has sucked as a coach so far and Fitt has sucked as a GM. Simple as that.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but at the same time, if Tepper did force them to take Young, do you really think that Reich and Fitterer wouldn't have been saying the exact same stuff that they did?

They're not going to come out and be like, "well we wanted Stroud but we had to take Young"

Whether they wanted him or if Tepper forced it, you were always going to hear the exact same stuff out of them that we did, because they would have had to sell it as their decision in the end anyways.

[Newtcase]

I don't think they take Bryce unless Fitts & Reich were onboard.  I could see them saying Young or Stroud will fit what we're trying to do here, break the tie type situation.  In which case they better get back to work.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, WhoKnows said:

Stop it with the if they were forced. Scott and Frank had a damn love fest for Young. Frank even called it a proposal. They both got interviewed about it and I think it was Scott that said they told each other at the same time after the evaluation and both said Young. They even mentioned that Young was on top at the start and finish of their evaluation.

Here’s one of many articles that basically said everyone wanted Young from the start through the end:

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/.amp/gm-report/what-scott-fitterer-frank-reich-said-about-bryce-young 

The Tepper forced their hand poo is just BS. Reich has sucked as a coach so far and Fitt has sucked as a GM. Simple as that.

At the end of the day we really have no idea how the decision making process went, we just know the PR spin of it. A team always portrays their draft picks as consensus picks. Especially picks with this type of investment.

[The Natural]

Is there any evidence that Tepper "forced" the Bryce pick? All the evidence I've seen points to Fitts and Reich making this pick but I'd be open to seeing anything that gives credence to this popular conspiracy theory.

[TheSpecialJuan]

I hope Tepper has enough patience to stick with Reich and Fitterer through the season. Firing one or both will just set the franchise back even further. 

[Newtcase]

4 minutes ago, Waldo said:

I do wonder how he is going to like the hostile home crowd at 0-6. There is so much of this season left and it's looking so bad still. 

If he just closes his eyes he can imagine having a great team.  The sound of Houston fans cheering another score or defensive stand will fill the air!

[CRA]

Pending Frank musters a few wins after the bye and Bryce looks ok, he is perfectly safe.   He gets a year 2.   

I think Fitt is a dead man walking.  Think Tepper takes him out in season. 

[Khaki Lackey]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

Pending Frank musters a few wins after the bye and Bryce look ok he is perfectly safe.   He gets a year 2.   

I think Fitt is a dead man walking.  Think Tepper takes him out in season. 

That would be ideal. The new GM can evaluate Frank and Bryce next season. Fitts gotta go. His track record is proving to be awful.

Edited October 10, 2023 by Khaki Lackey