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Jonathan Jones piece this morning on the latest in Carolina

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13 minutes ago, Ghostofdelhomme said:

The don’t want him to get hurt, and the OL sucks, so they haven’t run a single RPO all year.

Literally, the only thing in Bryce’s control is to run more when nothing is open instead of throwing the ball away or waiting and taking a sack. If no one is open or coming open, tuck and run. He’s tried long enough to wait and hope someone comes open, it’s just not going to happen 

We've run RPO.  People get RPO confused with zone read all the time. 

What Cam did was a zone read.  It's primarily a running play where you are reading a key defender to decide whether the tailback gets the ball or the QB pulls and runs.  Sometimes you'll have a pass option worked into that, but it's usually designed as a run.  We would be so far beyond stupid to have Bryce do any of this it doesn't even bear conversation.

An RPO is a play that often looks similar to a zone read at the mesh point.  The difference is that the QB is reading a key defender to decide if the tailback gets the ball or he pulls it to throw.  This is the stuff Bryce "should" be good at.  We were sold he was a super smart guy, reading that defender and creating a no win scenario for him should be right in BY's wheelhouse.

 

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Duce Stanley probably still has Ben Johnson's number from where they were together in Detroit the last couple of years. Maybe Tepper had Deuce send a friendly text to ask if he's interested? It's a long shot but that's the dream. We are his hometown and childhood's favorite team, and he already has familiarity with Duce and Todd Wash who are already on staff and if Evero doesn't get a HC gig then he already has a top DC here and ready to go. 

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15 minutes ago, Byrdman4real said:

The sharks might already be one of the coaches.

Yep

i feel bad for the DC.  on the field constantly, mass amounts  of IR’ed personnel   He also has managed to look like a pro team even without the personnel for his system   He will be severely tested today 

he and Tabor are all I would keep…the GM, scouts, offensive staff, head coach, bye

The Panthers have players and staff, and have for a few years, that are just glad to be here, get checks and participation awards and I’m sick of being every other team’s get well game for the past six years 

hire a consultant if needed but do something …you have to know to fold a losing hand

and, what is trotted out in this field is  a poo fest of all poo fests…let’s start with a QB without the physical tools to be a running threat to protect himself and help this anemic offense   All the defense needs to do is crowd the middle and it’s over   I’d be bringing in legitimate competition for him as well   

The Panthers only hope today is a Dallas sleepwalk. …truthfully, I’m not sure the Panthers could score if they were the only team in the field. 

 

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It makes sense to want the job if you believe in Bryce. Have him on a rookie deal. I’d imagine the sharks also want to be GM though which leads me to two candidates:

1) belicheck - I think this is not conceivable and not happening

2) harbaugh - I think this is much more realistic and is a no brainer 

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      I personally think you are trying to talk yourself into circles here... It's ok to say Bryce played incredible the last 5 weeks... I know there are plenty of people on this board who desperately need the doom-and-gloom narrative, but I genuinely question how much NFL QB play some of these people really have watched when they still question him being the unquestioned starter for next year...  Again, that being said, no one is crowning him at all. I think Bryce is one of the best stories going into 2025 bc his season last year was so outlandishly unprecedented. It's totally fair to personally not believe in Bryce. Plenty of sports "journalists" need to write stories, and that's an easy narrative path... But I think that actual people in the know rank Bryce much higher. That's the fun thing about sports... we shall see!
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      By Seltzer · Posted

      Regardless of how we got here, any rational fan should be excited by how well Bryce played down the stretch. Anyone not happy about that level of play either doesn't know what they're looking at, or they're still trying to drive tired narratives. Obviously, Cam had an all-time rookie season, and I'm not putting the two in the same basket yet, but as someone who has watched every snap of Panthers football since the start of the new millennium (Im old), Bryce was playing at a higher level at the end of 2024 than Cam was at the end of 2012 (his 2nd season). Cam continued to develop into MVP form, something Bryce has to prove, but as someone who watched both (and will stan for Cam always), Bryce was playing at a higher level to end year 2 than Cam did.  Go watch the film if you dont believe me. None of that means anything for the future. But the people who said BY9 couldnt play in this league are wrong.   That being said, the only thing that matters is this year. #20 is perfectly fair IMO going into the season. I mean think about it, how would you rank him??!  His in-season turnaround is one of the wildest things I've ever seen... how do you rank a guy who looked like a massive bust in September and by January was consistently playing at a top 10 level? My excitement level is pretty damn high heading into this season. There were throws from the Chiefs game onward where Bryce had Drew Brees levels of anticipation. Im excited to see what he can do with a full deck on offense, something we really never gave Cam. Really hope and expect Bryce to move up this list this season.  
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      PFF ranks the 2025 starting QBs

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      Not really, the only QB's (other than Anthony Richardson) ranked below him are new to their teams as a placeholder starter or drafted in 2024 or 2025, not a lot of gymnastics to get there. It's not about how many that is, if it's 20, 12, or 2... It means there isn't a QB who's team has committed to them for the long term right now that they have ranked below Bryce. That's not a great thing.
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