Never Should Have Happened

[DeAngelo Beason]

I guess the point you're trying to make is that if we start running the RPO more Bryce will show us all why he's supposedly a good qb.  Not gonna happen.  The kid just doesn't have the goods.

[Waldo]

The truth is they picked the wrong staff and the wrong QB.

It's now Bryce's time to salvage his situation but I have little faith it just ends up with a new QB and hopefully new HC/GM combo in '25. Maybe that will be the Teppers' year to pull a York.

[BY9Franchise]

10 hours ago, chknwing said:

Young excells at the RPO style offense he ran at Alabama.

Reich runs a boring version of pro style offense.  Stand in the pocket and pick apart a defense.

MCCown knows the pro style offense but is clueless on RPO.

These were the wrong choices for Bryce Young from the get go.

When Tepper hired Reich, he tossed out the possibility of an RPO offense.

This is why you let the coach pick the QB he knows can run his offense.

Once Bryce was picked, Reichs days were numbered.

Firing Reich now so Bryce can be pair with a coach better suited to put in an offense to take full

advantage of his skillset was the right call.

 

 

What he ran here absolutely, have to say the SB he won in Philly as OC its odd that they ran the heck out of the RPO guess it wasn't his playbook.

[45catfan]

10 hours ago, chknwing said:

Young excells at the RPO style offense he ran at Alabama.

Reich runs a boring version of pro style offense.  Stand in the pocket and pick apart a defense.

MCCown knows the pro style offense but is clueless on RPO.

These were the wrong choices for Bryce Young from the get go.

When Tepper hired Reich, he tossed out the possibility of an RPO offense.

This is why you let the coach pick the QB he knows can run his offense.

Once Bryce was picked, Reichs days were numbered.

Firing Reich now so Bryce can be pair with a coach better suited to put in an offense to take full

advantage of his skillset was the right call.

 

 

 

That's what you get when you hire a head coach and immediately neuter him by not letting him take his choice of QB(s).  Frank wanted Carr, then Stroud and had to settle for Young.  You're right, it was never going to work.

Edited November 29, 2023 by 45catfan

[BY9Franchise]

41 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

It doesnt really matter what offense we put Bryce in. We could cater to him and put him in rpo with an all-pro line, the best you could get from him is QB play you should expect from a good backup. Thats not what you want from a #1 overall QB that you traded so much more. He should be elite, but he isnt and never will be.

I disagree you put him on the 49ers and he's an All Pro 

[GhostWhispah]

10 hours ago, chknwing said:

Young excells at the RPO style offense he ran at Alabama.

Reich runs a boring version of pro style offense.  Stand in the pocket and pick apart a defense.

MCCown knows the pro style offense but is clueless on RPO.

These were the wrong choices for Bryce Young from the get go.

When Tepper hired Reich, he tossed out the possibility of an RPO offense.

This is why you let the coach pick the QB he knows can run his offense.

Once Bryce was picked, Reichs days were numbered.

Firing Reich now so Bryce can be pair with a coach better suited to put in an offense to take full

advantage of his skillset was the right call.

 

 

Reich was the reason why the Eagles won it all by using HIS system, not someone elses. Foles not only LOVE his system but credit Reich as the reason why they won the SB.

Obviously not everyone can run his system but it can win the SB with the right QB.

[SmokinwithWilly]

14 hours ago, chknwing said:

Young excells at the RPO style offense he ran at Alabama.

Reich runs a boring version of pro style offense.  Stand in the pocket and pick apart a defense.

MCCown knows the pro style offense but is clueless on RPO.

These were the wrong choices for Bryce Young from the get go.

When Tepper hired Reich, he tossed out the possibility of an RPO offense.

This is why you let the coach pick the QB he knows can run his offense.

Once Bryce was picked, Reichs days were numbered.

Firing Reich now so Bryce can be pair with a coach better suited to put in an offense to take full

advantage of his skillset was the right call.

 

 

And that's how you know Tepper is a meddling owner. No coach with his choice of QBs is going to choose the one that least fits his system. 

[Newtcase]

8 hours ago, BY9Franchise said:

I disagree you put him on the 49ers and he's an All Pro 

Purdy is #1 in QBR and Rating along with several other important categories.  San Francisco is also winning games.  These are just the facts.

Bryce is 32nd in QBR and 30th in rating and near dead last in every significant category.  Carolina has won a single game, largely thanks to another surprising if not herculean defensive effort.  Again, these are just the facts.

Facts are knowable things.  We know Purdy is among the best playing and Bryce is among the worst.  Why that's the case is certainly subjective and good conversation.  However, making statements like Bryce would be an All Pro at San Francisco is nothing more than your opinion.  Anyone that pretends their opinion carries the same water as the facts isn't worth having a discussion with. 

Edited November 29, 2023 by Newtcase

[CPF4LIFE]

3 minutes ago, Newtcase said:

Purdy is #1 in QBR and Rating along with several other important categories.  San Francisco is also winning games.  These are just the facts.

Bryce is 32nd in QBR and 30th in rating and near dead last in every significant category.  Carolina has won a single game, largely thanks to another surprising if not herculean defensive effort.  Again, these are just the facts.

Facts are knowable things.  We know Purdy is among the best playing and Bryce is among the worst.  Why that's the case is certainly subjective and good conversation.  However, making statements like Bryce would be an All Pro at San Francisco is nothing more than your opinion.  Anyone that pretends their opinion carries the same water as the facts isn't worth having a discussion with. 

You hit everything on the head, you are talking about Qbs having a ranking gap of 1 and 32. To just say Bryce would be a All pro by simply being in another system is just a big reach. I could understand if he was ranked in the middle of the pack atleast. When i hear statements like that it just comes off like fans are just really biased about bryce instead of realistic. 

[Basbear]

59 minutes ago, Newtcase said:

Purdy is #1 in QBR and Rating along with several other important categories.  San Francisco is also winning games.  These are just the facts.

Bryce is 32nd in QBR and 30th in rating and near dead last in every significant category.  Carolina has won a single game, largely thanks to another surprising if not herculean defensive effort.  Again, these are just the facts.

Facts are knowable things.  We know Purdy is among the best playing and Bryce is among the worst.  Why that's the case is certainly subjective and good conversation.  However, making statements like Bryce would be an All Pro at San Francisco is nothing more than your opinion.  Anyone that pretends their opinion carries the same water as the facts isn't worth having a discussion with. 

Besides that three week span filled with TO(I think he was coming off concussion?), purdy is killin it. Hes 10x the QB young is. Plus I thought he would be a weak spot, NOPE. Hes a strength on the best roster in the NFL. 

[BY9Franchise]

2 hours ago, Newtcase said:

Purdy is #1 in QBR and Rating along with several other important categories.  San Francisco is also winning games.  These are just the facts.

Bryce is 32nd in QBR and 30th in rating and near dead last in every significant category.  Carolina has won a single game, largely thanks to another surprising if not herculean defensive effort.  Again, these are just the facts.

Facts are knowable things.  We know Purdy is among the best playing and Bryce is among the worst.  Why that's the case is certainly subjective and good conversation.  However, making statements like Bryce would be an All Pro at San Francisco is nothing more than your opinion.  Anyone that pretends their opinion carries the same water as the facts isn't worth having a discussion with. 

No sh*t Sherlock

[ickmule]

11 hours ago, KillerKat said:

He should be elite, but he isnt and never will be.

[CRA]

11 hours ago, GhostWhispah said:

Reich was the reason why the Eagles won it all by using HIS system, not someone elses. Foles not only LOVE his system but credit Reich as the reason why they won the SB.

Obviously not everyone can run his system but it can win the SB with the right QB.

No he wasn’t.  Doug Pederson was the reason.  Doug Pederson adapts and adjusts to his talent. You literally find can find folks  detailing Doug adapting and adjusting  right now with the Jag.  It’s what he does.  On top of that, Frank Reich even acknowledges Pederson was doing legendary playcalling that SB run. 

Frank has proven in SD, Indy and now here….when he is in charge of an O.  He doesn’t adjust well. He doesn’t adapt well.  He likes to do what Frank does and sticks with it until it ends and it always ends the same.  All 3 times shown the door for the same reason.

* Nick Foles was compete trash in Indy when Frank actually ran an offense with him.