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Official "I heard there was a game today" thread (game day thread...whoopie)

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

He definitely has a better arm than Mac Jones. Obviously almost all the backup QB's starting you aren't including he has a better arm than. Gardner Minshew for instance. Ridder is debatable. He isn't a cannon armed guy for sure. 

 

They're still backup QBs, it's like saying any of our guards right now are "starting NFL guards"

No, they're not, they're backups who are needing to start because the starers are injured.

I also don't think he has a better arm than Jones, sure, maybe there is a debate about Ridder, but if that's the hill you're going to die on, that he MAYBE has the 30th or 31st strongest arm in the league, then I think you're missing the plot.

You don't trade everything we did and draft a QB at #1 who MIGHT have a stronger arm than a couple of QB's in the league, it's a joke.

There's nothing wrong with flat out saying, "we screwed up the pick, I hope he proves that wrong and finds a way to turn his career around, but he's just not the guy"

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4 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Arm strength is maybe his biggest overall problem because it's the root cause of a lot of his issues.

When you don't have the arm you need to make the throws you make, it changes everything else.

It changes the plays you can call, it changes the throws he can even attempt to make and thus causes him to make poor decisions because he flat out doesn't have the ability to make a throw if he doesn't have a perfect base underneath him.

Because of that he always feels the need to pull the ball down and move in the pocket, which he also isn't fast or strong enough to do and it leads to sacks and throwaways.  Where in the same situation, 90% of the other QB's in this league can still attempt the throw because they have the arm strength to throw off base.

No, maybe they don't complete the passes every time (although they do at times), but they at least can attempt them, he flat out can't and it has a cascading affect on the rest of his play/decisions.

A lot of this is genuinely footwork. He has to take an extra step and that means he gets balls out slower, combine that with a bad line and poor separation and it's just not gonna work.

Even if he fixes the footwork I think his arm strength is still bottom-half leaguewide, though.

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