Thomas Brown was unqualified

[Selltheteamtepper]

What in the world were we thinking with this hire? He was a career RB coach who had never called plays or coached QBs before? Why weren’t more people questioning this hire? It’s so rare you find an offensive coordinator who came up coaching RBs, They’re all former QBs and QB coaches. That’s like hiring an OC 101. 
 

We had no history or ties to him on the coaching staff. What exactly led us to hiring him? I don’t understand. 

[Panthers Fan 69]

Pillows and Hicky gonna suck vacuum style tmrw. 

[lightsout]

Bieniemy was literally a rubbing back.

Adam Stenavich was an offensive lineman.

 

But point taken, most OCs played QB. 

I think he's done well, especially since Frank was fired

[CamWhoaaCam]

Bro waited till our last game to discuss our awful offense. You hella late!

 

Brown is gone that's all that matters. Frank was worst then him tbh. We just had a bad off-season on so many levels.

 

Clean house and hope for the best even when you expect the worst.

[Hoenheim]

At this point it's just beating a dead horse. They all need to be gone on black Monday,  including Fitterer. 

[OldhamA]

1 hour ago, Selltheteamtepper said:

What in the world were we thinking with this hire? He was a career RB coach who had never called plays or coached QBs before? Why weren’t more people questioning this hire? It’s so rare you find an offensive coordinator who came up coaching RBs, They’re all former QBs and QB coaches. That’s like hiring an OC 101. 
 

We had no history or ties to him on the coaching staff. What exactly led us to hiring him? I don’t understand. 

I said this when he was hired, but I was shouted down.

[csx]

Not sure we can see that given the poor state of the qb, ol and receivers.

[pantherj]

The offense we had before Frank was fired was the worst I've ever seen play calling wise. I couldn't believe me eyes, and not only were the calls terrible but they didn't suit our players, and I'm not just talking about the o-line, I mean the whole team. What we were trying to do would have been considered dated and ineffective in the early 2000s, and we would run the same awful plays over and over, so there was no mystery what was about to happen. After Frank was fired we still did horrendous ill suited plays, but we started to eliminate some of what wasn't ever going to work, and things got slightly better. We were adding stuff that had a chance to work and didn't look outright idiotic. The Frank firing was 100% justified and desperately needed.

I don't know what to make of Thomas Brown. It's hard to judge him because he was saddled with Frank and Beans and that is just plain crippling. Even so, Thomas is going to get thrown out of BoA with cold blooded corporate efficiency. That dude is done and he might as well just move his personal affects out of his office now.

 

 

[Pejorative Miscreant]

37 minutes ago, pantherj said:

That dude is done and he might as well just move his personal affects out of his office now.

 

 

They know the writing is on the wall. Somehow I think the personal items at BOA for all coaching staff members are sparse. Exception may be Evero but who knows. 

Edited January 7, 2024 by Pejorative Miscreant

[strato]

I was about ready to post the reason he was hired, or whatever, and I realized I wasn’t really thinking about it but the worst thing out of all of it was this guy basically wrote the offense?

That was really freaking strange, hearing that.  WHY? It looks to me that that is really where this went off the rails (if you don’t count the draft). I mean, all those quarterbacks gurus and brainpower and a new rookie QB and you ask a 1st time coordinator who really seems to only have like..  running game expertise, to be the architect of a ground up brand new offense? It never made any sense.

And then the offense was designed, and it was time to implement. What did you guys see? The worst I have ever seen no doubt. I couldn’t recognize an NFL offense in any of those early games. Look at the plays they had to choose from, no matter who calls it they were drawing from a pretty dry well. 

 

[BIGH2001]

Remember when “the Belichick tree” was all the rage until all those guys failed after being promoted to their own real jobs? We are now going through the same phenomenon with “the McVay tree.”

[parker]

5 hours ago, csx said:

Not sure we can see that given the poor state of the qb, ol and receivers.

I think they'd look a lot better if you had plays and schemes to give them a chance to be successful.  We wouldn't be a dominate team but at least we'd look a little more competent.  Instead, we put the whole responsibility for success on a Rookie QB.  

[hepcat]

1 hour ago, BIGH2001 said:

Remember when “the Belichick tree” was all the rage until all those guys failed after being promoted to their own real jobs? We are now going through the same phenomenon with “the McVay tree.”

The real tree to hire a coach from is Mike Shanahan and now by proxy Kyle Shanahan. Mike had a good coaching tree and so does his son because he prioritized growing coaches to become head coaches one day. The 2013 Redskins staff has 4 head coaches in the NFL right now. Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Matt Lafleur, and Mike McDaniel.

You know who was an assistant on that staff? Bobby Slowik. 

[Ricky Prickles]

44 minutes ago, hepcat said:

The real tree to hire a coach from is Mike Shanahan and now by proxy Kyle Shanahan. Mike had a good coaching tree and so does his son because he prioritized growing coaches to become head coaches one day. The 2013 Redskins staff has 4 head coaches in the NFL right now. Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Matt Lafleur, and Mike McDaniel.

You know who was an assistant on that staff? Bobby Slowik. 

Interesting points and definitely something to think about!