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With Panthers cleaning house how safe is Bryce

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57 minutes ago, d-dave said:

Bryce is defiantly safe for the 2024 season.  This season sucked in about a million different ways.  Honestly, waiting in line at the DMV would have probably be a more entertaining time than most of our games!

That being said, Bryce was the top QB last draft.  Regardless of how incredibly well Stroud has played this season, Young was the consensus.  Honestly, what needs to happen to see Bryce improve is a more unified system.  The idea of marrying McVay with Reich's spread was not great.  We need well designed plays that give QBs answers instead of forcing Young to figure it out.  That's what good offensive coaches do.

That's going to be the biggest challenge: how do we take the players we have under contract (OL is power run, WRs are big and or slow, QB is small, TE is an afterthought, and Chubba is the best RB on the roster), and make a system that works for them.  More than who has the fattest rolodex, I want the coach with the best plan for what we have offensively.  And I want a coach who can lead the team.

Great post. 

I think a good HC can turn this place around very quickly. Despite how terrible this year was we have good pieces in place. 

Next year will be fine. 

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He’s safe for at least another year. Maybe a 3rd if he shows some progression. 
 

Biggest thing is he won’t be new HC and GMs “guy”.

I will be interested to see if the new folks keep Dalton behind him, sign a a younger borderline starter than Andy, or draft a guy at 33.

What they do at back up QB will determine the confidence level. 

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Bryce doesn’t belong in the nfl but he’s not going to he cut. 
 

they’ll bring in a veteran in the spirit of open competition, the vet will win the job in preseason, and Bryce will quietly sit on the bench unless there’s an injury. 
 

There will occasionally be calls to see what he can do, and maybe he even fills in well for garbage time or an injury start here or there, but no coach who can make decisions will put him out there again for a full season. 
 

in three more years the panthers will decline to pick up his fifth year option, he’ll get a training camp invite somewhere maybe, and he’ll decide to “pursue other opportunities” in television or whatever. 
 

that is how the story of Bryce the nfl qb will end. 

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They could have drafted Stetson Bennett who is essentially the same QB as Bryce only a few years older and been just as bad this season but had DJ Moore and the #1 overall pick.

Bryce is god awful and shouldn’t be the only starting option next season. 

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Just now, BenjaminBreeg said:

Not safe at all if we allow a QB competition to determine the starter next year. Will we?

A legit one?  Not at all.  The rouse this camp gave that away.  Bryce took a couple days of first team reps and managed to replace Dalton as QB1?  Lol, right!

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If he's gonna get a gm and Coaching staff worth al lick it will be agreed before they accept their jobs that they will have final say in personnel moves. That being said Young will be under a microscope by the new leadership next year. If he's playing at the same level the first 4 weeks next year he'll find the bench and be moved on from quickly. 

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I'd be unpleasantly shocked if our new staff doesn't get Bryce some real competition in here. No HC worth his salt is going to accept this job if Bryce is being forced down his throat. If Bryce is subject to legit competition, how many people think that he'll actually win? 

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Bryce Young is the layer that complicates the hire when accounting for the fact there are multiple vacancies currently and some that have clear upgrades at QB. He will absolutely get next season but any head coaching candidate we hire is and will ask about all possibilities and contingency plans in the event things do not trend significantly upward for Bryce. The best candidate will not take the job if it's build around Bryce and nothing else. That is too much of a risk for any first time head coach. They read the same news we do about this team. Sometimes one chance is all you get. Tepper is going to have to accept his #1 pick just got a whole lot of people fired and we will need to assess possible options for 2025. In the meantime build the OL and get more weapons with what means we have.

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3 minutes ago, frankw said:

Bryce Young is the layer that complicates the hire when accounting for the fact there are multiple vacancies currently and some that have clear upgrades at QB. He will absolutely get next season but any head coaching candidate we hire is and will ask about all possibilities and contingency plans in the event things do not trend significantly upward for Bryce. The best candidate will not take the job if it's build around Bryce and nothing else. That is too much of a risk for any first time head coach. They read the same news we do about this team. Sometimes one chance is all you get. Tepper is going to have to accept his #1 pick just got a whole lot of people fired and we will need to assess possible options for 2025. In the meantime build the OL and get more weapons with what means we have.

he was get the default 1 spot going into next season, I think the next HC would fully have the space to demote him next year though. 

If Bryce picks up where he left off?  He isn't playing 17 for a new HC IMO. 

and Bryce's arm talent is likely to be an issue for a lot of coaches.  Because it impacts playbooks. 

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He's safe for the foreseeable future.  Not like we own the #1 pick in the draft and can go another direction.  He'll get a good look over the next couple seasons unless the situation around him improves and he does not.

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