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David, hi, some questions about this hire


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11 minutes ago, Martin said:

Well if Bryce is half as good as Natalie claims, Bryce will carry this team to the Super Bowl any time now…

No, no.  That only holds up if Bryce also gets a top 5 OLine, a 1000 yard RB, 2 receivers who can get 3+ yards of separation and a defense that gives him a short field a few times per game.

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7 minutes ago, RockyTopVol said:

I work with a guy that was a scout in the league for a long time. He is close friends with Jerod Mayo, and he said Mayo has talked about Dan Morgan for years. My co-worker insists that Dan is very well respected all across the league, and he said he'd be shocked if he didn't succeed immediately. 


People said that about Fitt.

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I'm not going to poo the new coach whatever the hell his name is before he has even coached one day. Who knows, he could be the next great head coach and was an undiscovered gem. We cant predict and wont be able to  for a while anyhow but i'm not going to poo on an unknown until I see what happens. This is daddy Tepps third hire and hopefully he gets it right this time. I would have been more disappointed if he went the hire an old retread like Darth Belicheat so who knows what he got. At least we can have some optimism of some sort. I've was too down over this season about everything to be down any more. Life is too fugging short to be down about this when we don't even know the future yet. If Bryce poo's the bed again next year at least we get a top pick and new guy can pick his guy. Either way we are moving and trying to get better so I cant fault daddy Tepp for at least trying.

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35 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Canales is in the same boat Ben Johnson was last year.  Our best bet was to grab one of these young coaches early before they turn into a bidding war the following year.  

I think that is what Tepper did with this hire. He's thinking he's getting in ahead of everyone else before Canales can build a better resume somewhere else.

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2 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Hey david. 

I know you read this forum. at least you have one of your clapping seals check it out and report back to you to get the "pulse of the fans" or whatever meaningless corporate catchphrase you use to describe the people that loathe you. 

Congrats on another coaching hire! I know nothing gets you going like making a head coaching change. You done it, what now, six or seven times since buying the team? I lose track. Enjoy this moment; it's your super bowl, and definitely the closest you'll ever get to it. I bet you're planning on going out into your feudal demanse and exercising your right to prima nocte on the first unsuspecting peasant you find, or whatever it is rich perverts like you do for fun. Just a couple questions about the hire. 

Are you going to make him keep Chris Tabor? Everyone knows he's your inside guy and was knifing people behind the scenes. In fact he's likely done it to two coaches, since the end of the Rhule era was akin to the last days in Hitler's bunker. You've been accused of hiring yes men... are you going to make the new head coach keep your little Rasputin? Surely Canales knows about this and asked about. Won't send the best message to the targets for your vodka sodas if you keep Tabor around. 

The Panthers are the only team that requested to interview Canales. Is this because no one else thought he was ready for a head coaching interview? Are we supposed to believe that you are smarter than the rest of the league? I know you really want everyone to think that, and you moved a bunch of zeros and ones around a spreadsheet in a way that made you lots of other numbers in a bank account, and a lot of people equate this to intelligence. Is anyone supposed to trust you right now? 

Canales' offense last year was 20th in points and 23rd in yards last season. That's with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, who the Panthers don't have and won't be able to draft after the Bryce fiasco. Is this what a hot hire looks like? A guy who produced a bottom/average offense? The panthers were 20th in the league in ppg in 2022 and you decided not to bring that coach back. Also you traded away both of the best players from that offense to get a QB that put up the second worst rookie qb season in modern league history. 

Speaking of QBs, I'm sure you are impressed by his work with Baker Mayfield. Lots of people talk about Baker's reclamation, but his stats this year were similar to what they were in 2018 and 2020. Baker has bad years when he's hurt (2021) or when he's on a dumpster fire team like the Browns in 2019 and....your panthers in 2022. Is it a successful reclamation project or a successful hostage extraction. Guess we'll find out! but luckily for Panthers fans, if all goes as well, we'll have a slightly above mediocre offense to cheer for in 2024. Huzzah!

But let's talk about that offense. Baker Mayfield was 8th in the league in play action passes in 2023, and Bryce was 18th. I don't pay for the fancy stats that break down how they did per pass, but I do know Baker played under center, and Bryce...well Bryce was not as much. I also know from tons of film breakdowns that are easy to find on youtube that Bryce struggles with PA from center because he's not able to turn his head away from the line to sell it. He has to peak the entire time because he's too small and will lose the receivers in their routes. Did he address this at all? Did you ask? 

Bucs offense has a TON of weapons. Without pointing fingers, the panthers...don't. In the past you've said Bryce doesn't need wide receivers because he's a point guard. Do you still believe that? Are we going chase some free agents to Carolina? Tee Higgens is probably going to Tennessee to work with a coach that wanted nothing to do with you. Are you going to command under penalty of being fired Dan Morgan to break the bank on Mike Evans, a guy who's played 10 years in the league and is on the wrong side of thirty? A player that Panthers fans all rightly hate? 

How many years did you promise this guy? Panthers need several drafts worth of good players, and by the time you cold realistically get that team in place, Bryce will be in his...what? Third, fourth year? Staring down an extension? So the Panthers never really get to benefit from the biggest advantage of a rookie qb: cost control. Are you going to fire this guy when Bryce is still making you look like an idiot? A dramatically improved Bryce is probably not even league average. Will Bryce be entering the end of his rookie deal with ANOTHER new head coach...if he even survives. 

Oh yeah, protecting Bryce. Bryce was second in the league in sacks last year. Baker, with Canales as OC, with better players at basically every position, was...8th. Am I supposed to believe that a QB smaller than your wife is going to survive long enough to get a San Fran caliber team around him to overcome his deficiencies? 

Any congrats to canales. He's getting life changing, fug you money for a contract he'll likely never see the end of. But don't worry about that DAvid. It just means you get to do your favorite thing; hire coaches to try to prove you're smarter than the rest of the NFL. 

Dave Canales - young, little experience offensive coordinator to head coach

Thomas Brown - young, little experience RB coach to offensive coordinator

Joe Brady - young, college offensive coordinator to offensive coordinator

This time David, it'll work. You'll show all those other idiot owners who the real genius is, and they'll all tell you how cool and neat and respected you are via emails you can read at wherever rich sickos go now that Epstein's island is off line. 

Just some thoughts about questions you could answer next time you deign to speak to us mere mortals. 

 

Go scream at some trees….You will get the same result. Normal huddle posters won’t read that novel, much less Tepper.

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2 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Hey david. 

I know you read this forum. at least you have one of your clapping seals check it out and report back to you to get the "pulse of the fans" or whatever meaningless corporate catchphrase you use to describe the people that loathe you. 

Congrats on another coaching hire! I know nothing gets you going like making a head coaching change. You done it, what now, six or seven times since buying the team? I lose track. Enjoy this moment; it's your super bowl, and definitely the closest you'll ever get to it. I bet you're planning on going out into your feudal demanse and exercising your right to prima nocte on the first unsuspecting peasant you find, or whatever it is rich perverts like you do for fun. Just a couple questions about the hire. 

Are you going to make him keep Chris Tabor? Everyone knows he's your inside guy and was knifing people behind the scenes. In fact he's likely done it to two coaches, since the end of the Rhule era was akin to the last days in Hitler's bunker. You've been accused of hiring yes men... are you going to make the new head coach keep your little Rasputin? Surely Canales knows about this and asked about. Won't send the best message to the targets for your vodka sodas if you keep Tabor around. 

The Panthers are the only team that requested to interview Canales. Is this because no one else thought he was ready for a head coaching interview? Are we supposed to believe that you are smarter than the rest of the league? I know you really want everyone to think that, and you moved a bunch of zeros and ones around a spreadsheet in a way that made you lots of other numbers in a bank account, and a lot of people equate this to intelligence. Is anyone supposed to trust you right now? 

Canales' offense last year was 20th in points and 23rd in yards last season. That's with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, who the Panthers don't have and won't be able to draft after the Bryce fiasco. Is this what a hot hire looks like? A guy who produced a bottom/average offense? The panthers were 20th in the league in ppg in 2022 and you decided not to bring that coach back. Also you traded away both of the best players from that offense to get a QB that put up the second worst rookie qb season in modern league history. 

Speaking of QBs, I'm sure you are impressed by his work with Baker Mayfield. Lots of people talk about Baker's reclamation, but his stats this year were similar to what they were in 2018 and 2020. Baker has bad years when he's hurt (2021) or when he's on a dumpster fire team like the Browns in 2019 and....your panthers in 2022. Is it a successful reclamation project or a successful hostage extraction. Guess we'll find out! but luckily for Panthers fans, if all goes as well, we'll have a slightly above mediocre offense to cheer for in 2024. Huzzah!

But let's talk about that offense. Baker Mayfield was 8th in the league in play action passes in 2023, and Bryce was 18th. I don't pay for the fancy stats that break down how they did per pass, but I do know Baker played under center, and Bryce...well Bryce was not as much. I also know from tons of film breakdowns that are easy to find on youtube that Bryce struggles with PA from center because he's not able to turn his head away from the line to sell it. He has to peak the entire time because he's too small and will lose the receivers in their routes. Did he address this at all? Did you ask? 

Bucs offense has a TON of weapons. Without pointing fingers, the panthers...don't. In the past you've said Bryce doesn't need wide receivers because he's a point guard. Do you still believe that? Are we going chase some free agents to Carolina? Tee Higgens is probably going to Tennessee to work with a coach that wanted nothing to do with you. Are you going to command under penalty of being fired Dan Morgan to break the bank on Mike Evans, a guy who's played 10 years in the league and is on the wrong side of thirty? A player that Panthers fans all rightly hate? 

How many years did you promise this guy? Panthers need several drafts worth of good players, and by the time you cold realistically get that team in place, Bryce will be in his...what? Third, fourth year? Staring down an extension? So the Panthers never really get to benefit from the biggest advantage of a rookie qb: cost control. Are you going to fire this guy when Bryce is still making you look like an idiot? A dramatically improved Bryce is probably not even league average. Will Bryce be entering the end of his rookie deal with ANOTHER new head coach...if he even survives. 

Oh yeah, protecting Bryce. Bryce was second in the league in sacks last year. Baker, with Canales as OC, with better players at basically every position, was...8th. Am I supposed to believe that a QB smaller than your wife is going to survive long enough to get a San Fran caliber team around him to overcome his deficiencies? 

Any congrats to canales. He's getting life changing, fug you money for a contract he'll likely never see the end of. But don't worry about that DAvid. It just means you get to do your favorite thing; hire coaches to try to prove you're smarter than the rest of the NFL. 

Dave Canales - young, little experience offensive coordinator to head coach

Thomas Brown - young, little experience RB coach to offensive coordinator

Joe Brady - young, college offensive coordinator to offensive coordinator

This time David, it'll work. You'll show all those other idiot owners who the real genius is, and they'll all tell you how cool and neat and respected you are via emails you can read at wherever rich sickos go now that Epstein's island is off line. 

Just some thoughts about questions you could answer next time you deign to speak to us mere mortals. 

 

These kids on the Huddle nowadays ain’t ready for a Fiz Effort Post. 

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21 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I think that is what Tepper did with this hire. He's thinking he's getting in ahead of everyone else before Canales can build a better resume somewhere else.

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Honestly you are right and it’s not a bad decision based on where we are as a franchise. We didn’t have to worry about a bidding war and losing him to another franchise. 

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1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

Honestly you are right and it’s not a bad decision based on where we are as a franchise. We didn’t have to worry about a bidding war and losing him to another franchise. 

It only works if he is right. I like the strategy by do not trust the person or persons executing it.

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3 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Hey david. 

I know you read this forum. at least you have one of your clapping seals check it out and report back to you to get the "pulse of the fans" or whatever meaningless corporate catchphrase you use to describe the people that loathe you. 

Congrats on another coaching hire! I know nothing gets you going like making a head coaching change. You done it, what now, six or seven times since buying the team? I lose track. Enjoy this moment; it's your super bowl, and definitely the closest you'll ever get to it. I bet you're planning on going out into your feudal demanse and exercising your right to prima nocte on the first unsuspecting peasant you find, or whatever it is rich perverts like you do for fun. Just a couple questions about the hire. 

Are you going to make him keep Chris Tabor? Everyone knows he's your inside guy and was knifing people behind the scenes. In fact he's likely done it to two coaches, since the end of the Rhule era was akin to the last days in Hitler's bunker. You've been accused of hiring yes men... are you going to make the new head coach keep your little Rasputin? Surely Canales knows about this and asked about. Won't send the best message to the targets for your vodka sodas if you keep Tabor around. 

The Panthers are the only team that requested to interview Canales. Is this because no one else thought he was ready for a head coaching interview? Are we supposed to believe that you are smarter than the rest of the league? I know you really want everyone to think that, and you moved a bunch of zeros and ones around a spreadsheet in a way that made you lots of other numbers in a bank account, and a lot of people equate this to intelligence. Is anyone supposed to trust you right now? 

Canales' offense last year was 20th in points and 23rd in yards last season. That's with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, who the Panthers don't have and won't be able to draft after the Bryce fiasco. Is this what a hot hire looks like? A guy who produced a bottom/average offense? The panthers were 20th in the league in ppg in 2022 and you decided not to bring that coach back. Also you traded away both of the best players from that offense to get a QB that put up the second worst rookie qb season in modern league history. 

Speaking of QBs, I'm sure you are impressed by his work with Baker Mayfield. Lots of people talk about Baker's reclamation, but his stats this year were similar to what they were in 2018 and 2020. Baker has bad years when he's hurt (2021) or when he's on a dumpster fire team like the Browns in 2019 and....your panthers in 2022. Is it a successful reclamation project or a successful hostage extraction. Guess we'll find out! but luckily for Panthers fans, if all goes as well, we'll have a slightly above mediocre offense to cheer for in 2024. Huzzah!

But let's talk about that offense. Baker Mayfield was 8th in the league in play action passes in 2023, and Bryce was 18th. I don't pay for the fancy stats that break down how they did per pass, but I do know Baker played under center, and Bryce...well Bryce was not as much. I also know from tons of film breakdowns that are easy to find on youtube that Bryce struggles with PA from center because he's not able to turn his head away from the line to sell it. He has to peak the entire time because he's too small and will lose the receivers in their routes. Did he address this at all? Did you ask? 

Bucs offense has a TON of weapons. Without pointing fingers, the panthers...don't. In the past you've said Bryce doesn't need wide receivers because he's a point guard. Do you still believe that? Are we going chase some free agents to Carolina? Tee Higgens is probably going to Tennessee to work with a coach that wanted nothing to do with you. Are you going to command under penalty of being fired Dan Morgan to break the bank on Mike Evans, a guy who's played 10 years in the league and is on the wrong side of thirty? A player that Panthers fans all rightly hate? 

How many years did you promise this guy? Panthers need several drafts worth of good players, and by the time you cold realistically get that team in place, Bryce will be in his...what? Third, fourth year? Staring down an extension? So the Panthers never really get to benefit from the biggest advantage of a rookie qb: cost control. Are you going to fire this guy when Bryce is still making you look like an idiot? A dramatically improved Bryce is probably not even league average. Will Bryce be entering the end of his rookie deal with ANOTHER new head coach...if he even survives. 

Oh yeah, protecting Bryce. Bryce was second in the league in sacks last year. Baker, with Canales as OC, with better players at basically every position, was...8th. Am I supposed to believe that a QB smaller than your wife is going to survive long enough to get a San Fran caliber team around him to overcome his deficiencies? 

Any congrats to canales. He's getting life changing, fug you money for a contract he'll likely never see the end of. But don't worry about that DAvid. It just means you get to do your favorite thing; hire coaches to try to prove you're smarter than the rest of the NFL. 

Dave Canales - young, little experience offensive coordinator to head coach

Thomas Brown - young, little experience RB coach to offensive coordinator

Joe Brady - young, college offensive coordinator to offensive coordinator

This time David, it'll work. You'll show all those other idiot owners who the real genius is, and they'll all tell you how cool and neat and respected you are via emails you can read at wherever rich sickos go now that Epstein's island is off line. 

Just some thoughts about questions you could answer next time you deign to speak to us mere mortals. 

 

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