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Can a QB be “fixed?”


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1 hour ago, Khaki Lackey said:

I don’t watch much college ball, and I’m not a QB expert. I was lead to believe by many media talking heads and many posters on here that Bryce’s size was his only limitation. I just assumed that his footwork, mechanics, and accuracy were really sound. That didn’t turn out to be the case.

What are some examples of a QB with questionable mechanics that were corrected after some time in the league? 
I can’t think of any. Give me some hope here. 

Virgil Carter with the Bengals. Dan Fouts with the Chargers. Steve Young with the 49ers. Brett Favre with the Packers. Kurt Warner with the Rams. Matt Hasselbeck with the Seahawks. Drew Brees with the Saints. Nick Foles with the Eagles. There's many more.

Just about every successful QB has had to change their mechanics. The key is finding a QB whisperer with leadership qualities & extend his impact as a WR/TE coach while demonstrating an ability to make in game adjustments.

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23 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Great at what? In the NFL that is. 

What he was this year was a bad QB who didn't look like he belonged on an NFL field. This ain't college anymore. Lots of great college players fail to translate to the NFL level.

Everything before he came here…are you even aware of what he did in college?  

How in the world could he possibly do anything with this offense?  This conversation is ridiculous.  He is a 22 yr old guy on a terrible team and somehow his career is over?  

Give up on everyone on the team but our rookie QB?  Makes no sense 

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1 minute ago, Manna said:

I know nothing about development but is it possible to increase his throwing power as well? I would imagine it has nothing to do with muscle building. 

Throwing form and muscle can increase it. Burrow was able to increase his throwing velocity by tweaking his throwing motion after his rookie year. He strengthen his hips. 
 

https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/news/joe-burrow-altered-throwing-motion-this-offseason-while-recovering-from-torn-acl#:~:text=He made changes to his,and being more accurate downfield.&text=Burrow focused on strengthening his,with his velocity and accuracy.
 

 

 

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1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Throwing form and muscle can increase it. Burrow was able to increase his throwing velocity by tweaking his throwing motion after his rookie year. He strengthen his hips. 
 

https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/news/joe-burrow-altered-throwing-motion-this-offseason-while-recovering-from-torn-acl#:~:text=He made changes to his,and being more accurate downfield.&text=Burrow focused on strengthening his,with his velocity and accuracy.
 

 

 

This is so strange…his arm is perfect.  Is it Josh Allen no but that doesn’t matter.  Damn this forum is so nuts.  

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2 minutes ago, Shocker said:

This is so strange…his arm is perfect.  Is it Josh Allen no but that doesn’t matter.  Damn this forum is so nuts.  

His arm is perfect?  Either your trolling or your the worst judge of talent this board has ever seen.  It’s literally a FACT that his arm is subpar.  His quick (smart) decision making was supposed to make up for this, but clearly that wasn’t the case.  His deep balls never have a chance, defenses didn’t respect them at all and why the hell would they.  Face the facts, Bryce is gonna need to rely on talent around him to be successful, because his talent is sorely lacking..

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1 hour ago, Shocker said:

Everything before he came here…are you even aware of what he did in college?  

How in the world could he possibly do anything with this offense?  This conversation is ridiculous.  He is a 22 yr old guy on a terrible team and somehow his career is over?  

Give up on everyone on the team but our rookie QB?  Makes no sense 

Are you aware of the long list of great college players who didn't translate to the NFL? After you get drafted what you accomplished in college is no longer relevant.

Ironically enough, I was bringing up these same raw talent questions pre-draft last year. The evidence was all over his college tape.

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Are you aware of the long list of great college players who didn't translate to the NFL? After you get drafted what you accomplished in college is no longer relevant.

Ironically enough, I was bringing up these same raw talent questions pre-draft last year. The evidence was all over his college tape.

He seems to forget Baker is like a top 10 all time college qb lol. Mariota, Griffin, Bradford, Manziel, the list goes on 

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Bryce will never have the fast ball to let it rip off the back foot. But blind Freddy can tell he was in the worst possible situation to succeed this season. There’s a reason a lot of people would have had him as a generational talent if he was 6’3 230 and thats taking into consideration his throw power 

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6 hours ago, Shocker said:

He was literally one of the best QBs in college ever.  The traits are there and he is a flat leader.  My question is why in the world would you think he can’t be great?  He has been great.  We have to help him be what he is in the toughest league in the world.

He is 22.  You seriously believe this is on him and he sucks?  Jesus

This guy is a troll at this point 

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8 hours ago, HardcoreHokie said:

Check out Steve Young’s career.  

Started in the USFL for 2 years, then the TB Bucs, widely regarded as a huge bust…

…and then followed Joe Montana to win 3 Super Bowls in SF.

Young is 4” taller and 30lbs heavier. Any 5’10” or shorter guys that were terrible but turned it around that you can think of? 

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8 hours ago, Shocker said:

Everything before he came here…are you even aware of what he did in college?  

How in the world could he possibly do anything with this offense?  This conversation is ridiculous.  He is a 22 yr old guy on a terrible team and somehow his career is over?  

Give up on everyone on the team but our rookie QB?  Makes no sense 

godalmighty, still with the college cucking?

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