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Subtract form 2-15 team; Frankie Luvu, Donte Jackson, Bradley Bozeman, Vonn Bell, Brian Burns,


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6 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I think that we can see baby steps this season, a semblance of improvement in 2025, and then be competitive by 2026 and legit by 2027. That's my reasonable expectation. 

That's a reasonable take. If they draft well, or should I say get lucky in the draft and free agency they MIGHT shave a year off of that. There's just too many if's involved to know for certain if things will change.  You will just have to look at where they are improving and what is not.

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7 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

CMC, DJ Moore, and Brian Burns are all pro bowl players who I’d love to have on my team with a rookie QB.

We now have the rookie QB with none of those players. How this team managed to fug that up is mind boggling.

CMC could be a HOFer. Moore is really good on an even better contract. Burns is very athletic but only hit 10 sacks in 1 season.

Adding in Young just shows the downwards spiral the team is in. All they do is fug up regardless of the face. Once you accept that it all stops hurting and becomes hilarious.

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30 minutes ago, Basbear said:

and Hayden Hurst 

Resign/kept-

89 year old LS- JJ Jansen

73 year old NB- Troy Hill

"potential HOFer" TE- Ian Thomas

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RG- Robert Hurst for 100 million

 

Absolutely brilliant!!1!1!!!

 

Breaking: UFA’s don’t want to sign on shitty team. 

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Subtract the underacheivers (Luvu excluded) and rebuild. 

Jus like Schlereth said about the Broncos

"For eight years, this place has been garbage," Schlereth told Pat McAfee. "The Denver Broncos were a crown jewel in the National Football League. And they're not, they're irrelevant. And we keep putting Band-Aids on things and think that that's going to fix it. And I for one am sitting here and saying, 'Thank you, Sean Payton, for recognizing this team is not very good.'

 

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4 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

They're tearing down the defense to rebuild the offense. Makes sense if we don't expect to win this year.

Remember 2011? It kinda like that, we need to get some semblance of a NFL offense going and if we score 27 and lose by 35 it is what it is but thats better than this past year.

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    • I feel like this trade just lives rent free in people's heads and keeps morphing into different things. First thing is that the rumored trade was for future firsts. They wouldn't have any extra picks in 2023; the firsts would have been for 2024 and 2025. With very few exceptions, NFL GMs don't value picks that far away. You have to have a lot of job security to pull that off. Like Chiefs, Eagles, Rams kinda stability. That's obviously not the case with David Tepper, especially since he'd just fired his head coach. No GM except for like Howie Roseman is going to trade an asset you have now for a future asset you probably get to use.  Second, at the time you'd have to assume these are first rounders late in the first round. Obviously currency is currency and the panthers need young players, but these weren't slam dunk top ten picks. At the end of the day there's one pick that separates a first and second round pick.  Lastly, the only place that ever reported this trade was the Rams. All the reporters just repeated what McVay said and it became gospel. We have no idea how serious the negotiations were, if they ever really happened, if the offer was real, etc. And I personally believe McVay and Sneed are the kind of guys who would make up rumors like that to fug up other teams, mostly because I assume if I've thought of it someone smarter than me has.  I don't know how you'd call it the greatest draft haul of all time. Firsts quickly lose their value the farther out they are and Burns had 16.5 sacks last season. And anyway those picks would probably just been tossed into the burning inferno of the Bryce trade up so it's a moot point anyway. 
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