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Carolina Panthers @ Las Vegas Raiders Gameday Thread


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3 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Mingo still looks just as bad as he did last season and so far this season. One play doesn't change that.

I think knowing what we know now we have to give an honest assessment that last year really didn't give him much of a chance to develop all around.

I'm not arguing he's arrived I'm simply pointing out he looks capable which he really didn't last season for a number of circumstances many of which were beyond his control.

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1 minute ago, Lurk21 said:

I think Wonnum n Barno could be the juice we need possibly. Barno was coming on late last year and Wonnum has upside... just need to see. Peevy is a huge man btw but definitely  adding another edge next year!!

I hope so, but I still wouldn't mind picking up another defensive end/outside lb who can force the other team to account for his whereabouts.  

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