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5 minutes ago, frankw said:

I'm not using the word elite for any college QB that hasn't played in the NFL yet that's just me.

I'm not eliminating any QB prospects this early. I like Ward's potential. That's it.

If we somehow get the first pick we have to heavily consider QB. Now if we get a legit haul level offer from a team looking to trade up then I would accept that. I'm fine drafting a QB later if need be depending on how the draft falls. But we absolutely need to add one in the first 3 rounds. This QB room has to be purged in the offseason.

Of course they need to evaluate it and they obviously will. I don’t make the decisions, I just have an opinion and I’m not sold on any of these QBs. Maybe that changes as we get further in the process. All I’m saying is if you don’t have conviction in a QB this team needs to go defense. If they don’t have conviction they can’t be drafting a QB just to do it.

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

IDC that much about the QB room in 2025. Start getting actual talent on the team in 2025. Once that happens, the QB will matter again.

I already touched on this earlier in the thread. I'll revisit it again.

It's easy to say this. But it has to be discussed the reality of this situation in terms of the locker room and the current team culture. Even if we get those "dawgs" in here that we seek on the defensive side of the ball we have to reward them and keep them buying in. We cannot and will not do that without better QB play. And it doesn't even have to be stellar QB play. Just anything that's more than a few measly yards and a cloud of dust.

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Just now, L-TownCat said:

It’s not that I forgot.  It’s just there are more factors at play.  Jeff was bad but I don’t know anyone that expected him to be great.

Oh we did. He was supposed to be our new starting QB. He was a level of shell shocked that made David Carr look calm and composed. It was wild.

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