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1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

But I can say that we have never seen players improve in any season as we have Mays, Young, Zavala, and Coker. 

Young's transformation is ridiculous. I can't believe he's the same guy that started this season. 

But Zavala... Honestly thought that guy didn't belong in the NFL last year. Like how was he even drafted? How did he even play D1 football? This year, he looks like he'd be ready to take over for Lewis or Hunt if they're injured or ready to move on. His glow up is on another level. 

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4 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

Yep. But RAS is like the only thing that has mattered to Tepper's Panthers since he bought the team and started using "analytics" except for when it came to QB. If RAS had mattered as much when it came to QB, they would have drafted AR instead of BY.

I think the ras stuff was mostly pre fitterer and Morgan.  They prefer older "raw" prospects, not ras as much.  Rhule definitely loved ras and to be fair i prefer a true completed ras over "old and raw" if I was forced to pick one or the other.

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3 hours ago, Navy_football said:

Young's transformation is ridiculous. I can't believe he's the same guy that started this season. 

But Zavala... Honestly thought that guy didn't belong in the NFL last year. Like how was he even drafted? How did he even play D1 football? This year, he looks like he'd be ready to take over for Lewis or Hunt if they're injured or ready to move on. His glow up is on another level. 

Had we known, we MIGHT have reethunk the Hunt deal---not there yet, but dang he was good.  The last game, I did not realize Hunt was not playing

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3 hours ago, Navy_football said:

Young's transformation is ridiculous. I can't believe he's the same guy that started this season. 

But Zavala... Honestly thought that guy didn't belong in the NFL last year. Like how was he even drafted? How did he even play D1 football? This year, he looks like he'd be ready to take over for Lewis or Hunt if they're injured or ready to move on. His glow up is on another level. 

Good for Zavala great to see such an improvement from year one.  That dude took a beating on the field and off from the huddle last year got to hand it to him for putting in the work    
And maybe we finally have a OLine coach that coaches. 

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21 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Had we known, we MIGHT have reethunk the Hunt deal---not there yet, but dang he was good.  The last game, I did not realize Hunt was not playing

 

I think Dan was showcasing Zavala for trade. I mean lewis and hunt are young, great and here to stay. Kingston is here too. Just flip him for a 23 WR or 5th round pick, given all the holes. My guy John snow wants to keep OL a strength, that's makes sense too. I just feel he's wasted and one of the only trade chips on a team with too many holes. 

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On 1/15/2025 at 11:20 AM, ImfromClayton said:

This is why I think we may be incentivized to trade back in the draft. 

Those 6th and 7th round guys are at least NFL caliber guys if you draft decently. We have a lot of non-NFL guys playing, and certainly across the depth chart. Those late round picks will be more valuable to a team such as ours. 

We don’t need to trade back. We have 2 4ths and 3 5ths already. 9 picks and UDFAs, no reason at all to trade back.

There are on rare occasions NFL guys in the 6th and 7th. We have been terrible at identifying day 3 talent but at least we kind of learned and took Mays in the 6th the draft after missing twice on Trey Smith. That said we have more than enough picks to help with depth.

What we truly need is to get legitimate above average starters. We appear to have one top 10 guy in Lewis (6th/7th best LG) and a couple guys close to top 10 in Moton at RT and Hunt at RG and that’s likely why our OL was solid. We just can’t keep adding below average starters and act like they are great because they are starting. Our pick 8 needs to be top 10 at his position and 1 or 2 of the day 2 guys needs to be average NFL starter and 1 or 2 of our day 3 picks to surprise and at worst be upgrades to current starters. We need to crawl out of the talent hole we are clearly in right now.

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On 1/15/2025 at 10:29 AM, *FreeFua* said:

Shy Tuttle was never a good signing and like always they doubled down on the terrible signing by restructuring his contract last year

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That first number is cap hit and last number is dead money 

His contract was never a terrible contract. The problem was no real competition at the position.  

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