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Scourton - Collapsed Lung, Week-to-Week

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16 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Not being able to breath, feeling like you are suffocating is in fact a serious injury especially when you job relys on cardio.   Ive never heard of a mild collapsed lung but it may be a thing I just never heard of it.

 

we never can catch a damn break

Have had collapsed lung, with severe edema, from car crash. Can confirm, not being able to breathe and blacking out, waking up five days later, is very serious and you think you’re dying. 

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16 hours ago, Seltzer said:

Canales literally said in his presser a guy with a similar injury played the next week.

It's 3 weeks until Week 1.

Pointless fear mongering 

I don't see it as pointless fear mongering.  It's pretty scary.  In the first place it's being genuinely concerned for the health of our rookie who in most years would have been a first round pick.  This is a player with tremendous upside and is just beginning his NFL journey.

I do not understand how we continue to have what appears to be one of the worst medical departments in the NFL.  In our early years Biakabutuka, Beason, Morgan, Otah.  Even in our best period . . . Luke, TD, Cam, Olsen, CMC . . . all of them had careers that were heavily interrupted by injury.  Recently you've got Shaq, DB, JC . . . we just seem to lose important pieces every year. 

It's appalling.  I can't think of another team that's had such a tremendous run of injuries to players.  Maybe Detroit last year?  But that's just one year.  We are still a thin team, despite the improvements over the last year.  Two or three key injuries is all that separates us from another 5 win season.  Our curse seems eternal.

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24 minutes ago, BrianS said:

I don't see it as pointless fear mongering.  It's pretty scary.  In the first place it's being genuinely concerned for the health of our rookie who in most years would have been a first round pick.  This is a player with tremendous upside and is just beginning his NFL journey.

I do not understand how we continue to have what appears to be one of the worst medical departments in the NFL.  In our early years Biakabutuka, Beason, Morgan, Otah.  Even in our best period . . . Luke, TD, Cam, Olsen, CMC . . . all of them had careers that were heavily interrupted by injury.  Recently you've got Shaq, DB, JC . . . we just seem to lose important pieces every year. 

It's appalling.  I can't think of another team that's had such a tremendous run of injuries to players.  Maybe Detroit last year?  But that's just one year.  We are still a thin team, despite the improvements over the last year.  Two or three key injuries is all that separates us from another 5 win season.  Our curse seems eternal.

Yeah, injuries are just part of the reality of the game of football but dammit, why can't we have nice things? Seems like every time we stumble onto an elite player guess who's gonna get derailed by injuries?

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2 hours ago, BrianS said:

I don't see it as pointless fear mongering.  It's pretty scary.  In the first place it's being genuinely concerned for the health of our rookie who in most years would have been a first round pick.  This is a player with tremendous upside and is just beginning his NFL journey.

I do not understand how we continue to have what appears to be one of the worst medical departments in the NFL.  In our early years Biakabutuka, Beason, Morgan, Otah.  Even in our best period . . . Luke, TD, Cam, Olsen, CMC . . . all of them had careers that were heavily interrupted by injury.  Recently you've got Shaq, DB, JC . . . we just seem to lose important pieces every year. 

It's appalling.  I can't think of another team that's had such a tremendous run of injuries to players.  Maybe Detroit last year?  But that's just one year.  We are still a thin team, despite the improvements over the last year.  Two or three key injuries is all that separates us from another 5 win season.  Our curse seems eternal.


The 49ers and Raiders had more injuries than us last year.

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2 hours ago, BrianS said:

I don't see it as pointless fear mongering.  It's pretty scary.  In the first place it's being genuinely concerned for the health of our rookie who in most years would have been a first round pick.  This is a player with tremendous upside and is just beginning his NFL journey.

I do not understand how we continue to have what appears to be one of the worst medical departments in the NFL.  In our early years Biakabutuka, Beason, Morgan, Otah.  Even in our best period . . . Luke, TD, Cam, Olsen, CMC . . . all of them had careers that were heavily interrupted by injury.  Recently you've got Shaq, DB, JC . . . we just seem to lose important pieces every year. 

It's appalling.  I can't think of another team that's had such a tremendous run of injuries to players.  Maybe Detroit last year?  But that's just one year.  We are still a thin team, despite the improvements over the last year.  Two or three key injuries is all that separates us from another 5 win season.  Our curse seems eternal.

Detroit's injuries last year were absolutely bananas. 

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4 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

Hopefully, you’ll be taking this back next season. 

Agreed. Hes supremely talented but that will still mean we used a 2nd on a guy that is halfway into a rookie deal before we get to use him. And then what? A second contract for a rb is typically a bad move. Its just a low probability move all the way around. May work this time, but its not the smart play generally. 

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2 hours ago, Panthero said:

Agreed. Hes supremely talented but that will still mean we used a 2nd on a guy that is halfway into a rookie deal before we get to use him. And then what? A second contract for a rb is typically a bad move. Its just a low probability move all the way around. May work this time, but its not the smart play generally. 

If he’s a knockoff Jahmyr Gibbs, I won’t have any problem with it. I’m also thinking his injury history would be significant in contract negotiations. 

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13 hours ago, WarPanthers89 said:

He’s back at practice and looks like he has a chance to play week 1. Looks like this was not as bad as originally projected 

Unless he's 1,000%, just sit him an extra week at this point to let him get his legs back under him.

I want to see him out there as much as the next guy, but this was a serious thing and I'd rather wait an extra week than put him out one day too early and risk something going wrong, play the long game for once.

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