Thielen traded

[Joe Bear]

Just now, jfra78 said:

I think its clear Theilen wanted out as soon as the Vikings came calling. I'm glad we got as much as we did for an aged wr who was definitely retiring at seasons end.  I feel like he was a crutch for Bryce anyway.  Bryce would throw to AT when better options were available.

He was a crutch but I don't know where the better options were. Let XL drop it? Try an easy-to-cover Tremble? Find Coker wide open on the bench? Dump off to Hubbard short of the sticks?

[jfra78]

3 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

This is what annoys me. Why don't you do a solid for a franchise that you played for and gave you the GM job instead? 

We dont know what went on behind the scenes. It's possible Thielen played the "I'll just retire if I don't get traded" card

[ncsfinest21]

Its simple. Keep theilen instead of cutting him and getting nothing to be able to get back Renfrow.

[Jay Roosevelt]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

so after the dust settles we get a 2027 4rth for him?  Yeah, should have kept him but my spidey sense is telling me he told them to make a deal

If that's the case he should have made this clear to them back in January or February.

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

He was a crutch but I don't know where the better options were. Let XL drop it? Try an easy-to-cover Tremble? Find Coker wide open on the bench? Dump off to Hubbard short of the sticks?

Great QB's elevate those around them.

[SmokinwithWilly]

18 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

 

- This trade is why you keep David Moore, who is the de facto tutor for basically all the young WRs they've collected the past two years.

When I think about guys to tutor WRs, David Moore is not who I'm looking at and thinking he's someone I want my guys to be like. 

[CRA]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Well, now the Renfrow release makes no sense. Even if the hammy was lingering just put him on PUP while he rests up.

we are the worst run org in all of professional sports.  So it actually makes total sense.  

and Dave's scheme doesn't value what Hunter Renfrow does.  Nor what BY does well.  The world of random parts mashed together will continue in Carolina and somehow it's the players' fault when it's really the braintrust who just doesn't know how to get it done. 

so expect another season of WRs being largely covered.  Bryce being near the top in bad pass % because his play style/strengths and the scheme don't fit together....and meh O. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

we are the worst run org in all of professional sports.  So it actually makes total sense.  

and Dave's scheme doesn't value what Hunter Renfrow does.  Nor what BY does well.  The world of random parts expected to work is just going to continue on.

When youre limited by the people who will actually take the job because your owner has the track record he does, you end up with the Carolina Teppers. 

[hepcat]

Great they traded the only reliable pass catcher from last season 

[ForJimmy]

37 minutes ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

Hard to interpret something that way (even if it is accurate). Thielen knows the playbook and probably doesn't need as many reps, as say the rest of our receives who are rookies (Tet, Horn), 2nd/3rd year (XL, Coker, Tremayne), or were possible cut candidates (Renfrow, Moore).

I probably wouldn't have focused as much on Thielen also when they needed a lot of info on all of the other receivers

Agreed but it makes some sense. TMac is going to be a focus on the offense, XL should be freed up in the Z, and Coker is young and promising. They all need reps 

[Navy_football]

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

Also, doesn't this now mean David freaking Moore is currently the only WR on the team who has played more than 1 season in the NFL?

So so dumb.

[Chaos]

Sometimes the salary in exchange for vet leadership is worth the cost. Now that AT is gone, I guess….poo I don’t know who the veteran leader is. 

[CRA]

1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

When youre limited by the people who will actually take the job because your owner has the track record he does, you end up with the Carolina Teppers. 

well, Carolina was in theory on the right track.  They hired Dave.  Seemed to make an agreement they would move on from a QB who 100% doesn't fit what Dave does.  They slammed the door on Bryce Young after 2 a mere 2 games and the table was set.  But in typical Carolina fashion (much like the Wilks in season tank job)......they can't do anything right.  Despite how improbable the rise from the dead was....Carolina allowed it to happen. 

My avatar will never change. 

[KaseKlosed]

Collect prospects is the way to go for a team that is years away from a deep run.