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OFFICIAL Week 1: Panthers @ Jaguars Game Day Thread

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3 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Remember everyone felt they were overly conservative last year and then Dalton came in and threw for 300+ yards?

Yeah their unwillingness to bring in a playable #2 or have meaningful competition is a bigger issue than being conservative IMO. That's just the only game their QB can do and has any chance of positives. 

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1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

I don’t hate him, but are you watching the game?

how do we “open up” the offense for a guy who cost us 7 points on the first drive, and then blew the chance to take the lead on the next drive because he threw a pick straight into a defender’s chest?  There’s no magic play to fix that.

Hey Bryce is consistent in how he starts the year. 3 years running now?

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3 minutes ago, jasonluckydog said:

Example of last night

 

The South Carolina Gamecocks' game against SC State on September 6, 2025, was delayed by more than two hours due to lightning in the area. The kickoff was pushed from its original 7 p.m. ET start to 9:21 p.m. ET. 

Arizona's game was also delayed 2 some hours last night as well

Now this

Apparently I must have pissed of Thor this week, sorry Greg

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21 minutes ago, Icege said:

So... definitely some things that need to be cleaned up but also some positives.

Bad

  • Bryce has had more bad plays than good. While he did a good job getting Dowdle lined up on the 3rd down conversion he has also underthrown Renfrow, missed TMac wide left, and then didn't see the DB in the area on the pick. Going to need a lot better than that for the team to not go looking for his replacement next year.
  • LBs are looking extra rough. Rozeboom has bounced off of tackles and Wallace seems to be out of position more often than not. There ain't much talent behind them either.
  • Pressure is coming from coverage creating second chances rather than guys winning on their first step still.

Good

  • The run game is looking really good even without Icky.
  • Wharton and Moehrig, the two big defensive signings, are leading the team in tackles at the delay. Both seem to just find their way to the ball.
  • The secondary in general is doing a good job of sticking in coverage + tackling. That LB group is making the middle of the field such a liability though.

I was going to say that about Rozeboom--he is guessing and shooting gaps.  

I honestly expect Evero to be fired soon.  They are not getting it done and he has NO excuses now...  giving up points when they get 2 holding penalties etc.  Then the TE being wide open--I am startled.  

 

That's right.  I am startled.

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