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OFFICIAL Week 1: Panthers @ Jaguars Game Day Thread


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22 minutes ago, jopie87 said:

Trade, bench, cut XL. Doesn't matter which one. Get this dude off the team.

Everybody loves his personality but it's not wise to make a player popular before he shows he can actually play.

He has continual mental breakdowns, be it drops, sloppy routes or just basic lack of attention to detail

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3 minutes ago, Dragoon11 said:

You're partially right. But, what he CAN do is not force into double coverage when he has a clear running lane to a first down. And, he can learn to slide before he gets hit. Situational awareness not working well with him this game. Not ALL on him, the whole team lacks confidence and that's on the coaches.

He’s trying to put the team on his back because clearly he has zero reliable options outside of himself or TMac. Cmon man. We need a spark and the fumble was unfortunate. Legette got knocked over like a 130 WR on a JV team on that interception. XL is not an NFL WR. 

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4 minutes ago, Jmac said:

47 passing yards and 1 int and 1 fumble

That's franchise QB material.....

Here's the honest truth about Bryce--He's not horrible, but he's limited.  To be successful he'd have to be plugged in a 49er's or Chiefs type of offense.  He's doesn't, nor will he ever, have that luxury here.  So we can make one of two choices, keep dumping resources into Bryce in an attempt to make him better than he really is or move on to a different QB and create a more even handed approach to this roster.

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1 minute ago, CPantherKing said:

A bad team is going to have fundamental mistakes. QB & Defensive coordinator can't be face planting & making fundamental mistakes.

You're complaining about rattling of a car's belts & lights going out while the engine is burning oil & ready to go bust

Wide receivers are literally the cylinders of  any passing offense gtfo

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1 minute ago, frankw said:

Bruh I would be thrilled to even see an angry Ned Flanders version of Bryce. I'm sure he's a nice kid but he is milquetoast to the tee. You can see why the Tepper's pushed for him. They valued his marketability when they should have been worried about much more important things.

The 3rd and long where he got blasted and him and everybody was just laughing about it pretty much put the last nail in his coffin for me

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3 minutes ago, Dragoon11 said:

You're partially right. But, what he CAN do is not force into double coverage when he has a clear running lane to a first down. And, he can learn to slide before he gets hit. Situational awareness not working well with him this game. Not ALL on him, the whole team lacks confidence and that's on the coaches.

Not just confidence, they lack fundamentals, leadership , and heart. It all starts in the front office and coaching staff. 

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