Please DM, do not see Dalton failing as BY doing well enough for a big contract

[CBird]

I am worried with how bad Dalton has looked today, that the GM will mistake that as Bryce Young being good enough for a big contract……they are not related data points.   They both suck!
 

Oh, and you gotta give Dowdle the ball…over Chuba…..

What is going on with the run D?   Y’all think Evero is gonna get fired?

[CBird]

Oh and I hate seeing Bryce Young happy and joking around on the sideline in a game we are losing badly….Simply not the leader we want, or the player

[chknwing]

[frankw]

He does what the Tepper's tell him to.

[Bear Hands]

But why should we DM you?

[KillerKat]

Im fully expecting Young to get extended and us being in QB purgatory hell for another 3-4 years after it. Its the panther way. Young is the pick that will keep on giving. When its all said and done, we will have about decade full of below average QB play ,assuming he stays healthy enough, for a guy we mortgaged everything for to select #1 overall.

[CPF4LIFE]

Its sucks that all roads are leading to us keeping Bryce longer and his nothing to do with being a good qb. 

[The Lobo]

Oh it’s happening 

[tukafan21]

For as bad as Dalton was, and he was TERRIBLE... 

Bryce has only had a higher completion % in one game this year, by 1.3%, and had a 2nd that tied him.

Bryce has only thrown for more yards in 3 of his 7 starts with 2 of those 3 being just 23 and 24 more yards.

So all the people screaming how this game was proof that Bryce actually makes this team better is just nonsense, he got lucky in that we played some of the worst teams in the league during a stretch he was able to limit his turnover problems.

This is why so many of us were calling out all the major problems we were still seeing, in particular with game planning and play calling, and not just going all goo-goo gaga over the team just because we won a few games.  We didn't see any actual improvement in the key areas that would be needed when we stopped getting to play the worst teams in consecutive weeks.

Bryce playing today might have meant we would have scored more than 9 points, we might have got to 20.  But if we did, they wouldn't have pulled Allen when they did and they probably put up 50+

[Peon Awesome]

7 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

For as bad as Dalton was, and he was TERRIBLE... 

Bryce has only had a higher completion % in one game this year, by 1.3%, and had a 2nd that tied him.

Bryce has only thrown for more yards in 3 of his 7 starts with 2 of those 3 being just 23 and 24 more yards.

So all the people screaming how this game was proof that Bryce actually makes this team better is just nonsense, he got lucky in that we played some of the worst teams in the league during a stretch he was able to limit his turnover problems.

This is why so many of us were calling out all the major problems we were still seeing, in particular with game planning and play calling, and not just going all goo-goo gaga over the team just because we won a few games.  We didn't see any actual improvement in the key areas that would be needed when we stopped getting to play the worst teams in consecutive weeks.

Bryce playing today might have meant we would have scored more than 9 points, we might have got to 20.  But if we did, they wouldn't have pulled Allen when they did and they probably put up 50+

Sure if you just blindly look at stats, you can pinpoint a couple areas that look similar. But come on man that's lazy analysis. Instead of throwing lower percentage throws, Dalton held onto the ball unconscionably long, leading to several of those sacks including that unthinkable one at the end of the first half, inflating his completion percentage. Bryce for all his flaws, does a pretty good job of escaping pressure and scrambling for 5 yards or throwing it away. Dalton's pocket presence was just so incredibly bad today, which led to both of his lost fumbles. If Bryce would just hold onto the ball and get sacked every 3rd play instead of throw it away or try a contested pass, his completion percentage would be 15 points higher than Dalton's today.

And Bryce only had more yardage in 3 of 7 games? You mean when we played run heavy schemes in our wins, instead of Dalton being forced to throw all game cause we're getting blown out? 

Look anyone is more than justified in arguing Bryce Young doesn't have the tools to lead this team to a super bowl. But he has been head and shoulders better this year than what Dalton showed today. That was just an abysmal perfomance.

[tukafan21]

8 minutes ago, Peon Awesome said:

Sure if you just blindly look at stats, you can pinpoint a couple areas that look similar. But come on man that's lazy analysis. Instead of throwing lower percentage throws, Dalton held onto the ball unconscionably long, leading to several of those sacks including that unthinkable one at the end of the first half, inflating his completion percentage. Bryce for all his flaws, does a pretty good job of escaping pressure and scrambling for 5 yards or throwing it away. Dalton's pocket presence was just so incredibly bad today, which led to both of his lost fumbles. If Bryce would just hold onto the ball and get sacked every 3rd play instead of throw it away or try a contested pass, his completion percentage would be 15 points higher than Dalton's today.

And Bryce only had more yardage in 3 of 7 games? You mean when we played run heavy schemes in our wins, instead of Dalton being forced to throw all game cause we're getting blown out? 

Look anyone is more than justified in arguing Bryce Young doesn't have the tools to lead this team to a super bowl. But he has been head and shoulders better this year than what Dalton showed today. That was just an abysmal perfomance.

I literally said Dalton was terrible, I wasn’t defending him in the slightest.

Solely pointing out that if he was THAT bad and still put up the stats he did today… shouldn’t Bryce be doing THAT much better if he is even remotely supposed to be our long term QB solution?

[strato]

42 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

For as bad as Dalton was, and he was TERRIBLE... 

Bryce has only had a higher completion % in one game this year, by 1.3%, and had a 2nd that tied him.

Bryce has only thrown for more yards in 3 of his 7 starts with 2 of those 3 being just 23 and 24 more yards.

So all the people screaming how this game was proof that Bryce actually makes this team better is just nonsense, he got lucky in that we played some of the worst teams in the league during a stretch he was able to limit his turnover problems.

This is why so many of us were calling out all the major problems we were still seeing, in particular with game planning and play calling, and not just going all goo-goo gaga over the team just because we won a few games.  We didn't see any actual improvement in the key areas that would be needed when we stopped getting to play the worst teams in consecutive weeks.

Bryce playing today might have meant we would have scored more than 9 points, we might have got to 20.  But if we did, they wouldn't have pulled Allen when they did and they probably put up 50+

I tend to disagree with you a good bit but not here. 

I think Bryce was fortunate to miss this game because it could have been really bad for him. That is a very good team we played that didn’t even play their best and dictated to us. 

Canales wasn’t helping poo with his running back foolishness.

One thing I’ll say is maybe he would have been more conservative with Bryce and run the ball more but with Chuba getting 2.8 I don’t think it worked like it did with Dallas. 
 

I said in the predictions thread that I didn’t think it mattered who played QB we would likely lose the game and I still think that.