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At least Clausen had a decent arm....


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8 hours ago, Waldo said:

No he didn't and he never did. Bryce is who Clausen thought he was. Clausen just threw the balls Bryce won't because he was also dumber with nothing to lose without that first overall paycheck. 

Clausen had the worst arm I have ever seen and tiny hands to boot. Bryce is just your typical NFL bust level talent without the hunger or need to earn a roster spot...yet

I think Dillon Gabriel may have the worst arm I have ever seen.

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6 hours ago, electro's horse said:

i dont think anyone remembers this but me but shortly after cam was named starter in preseason Clausen gave an interview where he got huffy and said something like "i was told this was going to be an open competition at QB and I don't appreciate being lied to."

sure thing buddy

I'm sure it was open. It's just that it closed one minute after Cam stepped on the practice field.

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Jeff Lewis was the worst QB to ever wear the Panthers uniform. I have never seen anything like it.

And Seefart dumped Buerlein to make Lewis the starter. Proceeds to cut Lewis in the preseason, starts Weinke, the team wins the first game and then proceeds to go 1-15. Seefart gets canned and In comes Foxy and Jake and the rest is history. 

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38 minutes ago, csx said:

Clausen was pure poo. Either you didnt witness it or memory has faded.

He won 1 game and threw 3x as many ints as tds for us.

Yeah. Bryce is pure ass but this is recency bias. The Clausen era was so fuging bad.

I'll throw Weinke out there too as another drafted QB that was worse than Bryce has been so far.

Speaking of, I wonder if many franchises can beat the pure shittiness of the Pickles/Weinke/Young combo of drafted QB's since 1995? 

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46 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah. Bryce is pure ass but this is recency bias. The Clausen era was so fuging bad.

I'll throw Weinke out there too as another drafted QB that was worse than Bryce has been so far.

Speaking of, I wonder if many franchises can beat the pure shittiness of the Pickles/Weinke/Young combo of drafted QB's since 1995? 

The Browns easily top this by how many and how shitty they were. Tim Couch, Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden and Johnny Manziel all in the first round. Deshone Kizer in the 2nd, Charlie Frye and Cody Kessler in the 3rd. Also includes DTR and Spurgeon Wynn.
 

Three first round picks for Diddy Watson on top of that. Not to mention how many bad qbs from other teams got starts. 

 

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