SI: Time For Panthers to Move On From Bryce Young - Bryce is statistically the worst QB in the NFL since being drafted.

[LegioX]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Godalmighty, to see it laid out like that, and to know he still has people that support him, is just bat poo crazy

It’s because those dumbasses in the organization bet the farm to draft him. So they are going to go down with the ship.

[Panthers Fan 69]

When will we celebrate the day he is gets fired. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

28 minutes ago, ImfromClayton said:

This post is not defending Bryce young, but I do want to be as fair as possible.

Bryce's rookie year: Throw it out. Period. That was the most dysfunctional situation I've ever seen in the NFL.  Not just for the rookie QB, but for everyone involved. Fairly certain we had coaches on staff that weren't speaking to one another by the end of that season. The hatred was real. That said, he (Bryce) still hasn't been good enough. I would love to see these numbers without that season.  If anybody has a link for that, I'd appreciate it. 

Play calling. Canales has to make a decision about who we want to be. We jerk so much between trying to be a slow, methodical, efficient offense, and then going no huddle and throwing it all over the yard. I think part of the reason Bryce has the comebacks is because of course he's more consistent when we are throwing it all over the yard.  I think he's better when we are throwing it all over the yard. But that doesn't seem to be what Canales wants to do. This hybrid may be a coaches dream, and guys like Brady may have been able to do it, but Bryce simply can't. 

Edit: This hybrid/indecision in the playcalling and scheme is literally the reason Bryce has so many game winning drives. We try to play slow, and methodical, and take the air out of the ball every single game, every single possession, until the time and score dictate that we can't. Sometimes it works, and we dominate. In most games, we get about 6 possessions, and so does the other team, and it comes down to who plays better in the 4th quarter. When it doesn't work at all, we are trailing late, and have to go all gas no breaks. When we slow the game down, it's more than likely going to be a one score affair. This is also part of why our record correlates so closely with whether or not we win the opening coin toss. It's almost impossible to win the way we are playing if you don't win the "middle eight." 

I'm just not sure Bryce is the guy for the system Canales appears to want to run. I'm honestly not sure Chuba is the back for it either. 

Unfortunately you can't throw out his rookie season. When it comes down to it, coaches being at each other's throats or not, Bryce was the player on the field making horrible decision after decision and in 3 years it hasn't changed. He benefited from being surrounded by superior talent at Alabama with the top recruiting class almost every year and the best coaches money could buy. 

As a top QB prospect, he should be able to elevate his teammates to some extent, despite the coaches. That's not what we see on the field. It was check down after check down, jump throw after jump throw. It's not working. 

He sold himself at the combine. That's his job. Fittershits and Tepper and maybe Morgan bought it. The team and the fan base has hemorrhaged for 3 years since. Stop the bleeding. It's over. There's no saving this failed experiment. 

[Proudiddy]

22 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

We tried throwing it all over the yard last night it didn't work. 

We even threw it in goal line situations it didn't work. 

I think people fail to realize, if you look at each drive, all the little “oops” plays add up.  Almost every drive, Bryce bails on a play.  If every drive I accept no yardage is a okay for a play.  But the. The next play my RB only gains 2 yards.  Then I try to throw again on 3rd down and 8 and I only gain 6 yards then we punt - that poo happens every fuging drive.  It isn’t the one play.  It’s the cumulative effect of Bryce.  It stagnates the offense completely.  And Canales has tried to give him the chance to showcase himself, like last night, and that is when you truly get to see how bad he is.  One throw away here, one scared to throw so I tuck it and run for a yard there, one could’ve ran it into the end zone myself but floated a loaf of bread to be picked off in the end zone in goal to go…  all that poo adds up.

[Butterflyj30]

I was rooting for Bryce but I don't think I can sit thru another year of this mess!! I think we should see if we can trade him

[CRA]

42 minutes ago, ImfromClayton said:

This post is not defending Bryce young, but I do want to be as fair as possible.

Bryce's rookie year: Throw it out. Period. That was the most dysfunctional situation I've ever seen in the NFL.  Not just for the rookie QB, but for everyone involved. Fairly certain we had coaches on staff that weren't speaking to one another by the end of that season. The hatred was real. That said, he (Bryce) still hasn't been good enough. I would love to see these numbers without that season.  If anybody has a link for that, I'd appreciate it. 

Play calling. Canales has to make a decision about who we want to be. We jerk so much between trying to be a slow, methodical, efficient offense, and then going no huddle and throwing it all over the yard. I think part of the reason Bryce has the comebacks is because of course he's more consistent when we are throwing it all over the yard.  I think he's better when we are throwing it all over the yard. But that doesn't seem to be what Canales wants to do. This hybrid may be a coaches dream, and guys like Brady may have been able to do it, but Bryce simply can't. 

Edit: This hybrid/indecision in the playcalling and scheme is literally the reason Bryce has so many game winning drives. We try to play slow, and methodical, and take the air out of the ball every single game, every single possession, until the time and score dictate that we can't. Sometimes it works, and we dominate. In most games, we get about 6 possessions, and so does the other team, and it comes down to who plays better in the 4th quarter. When it doesn't work at all, we are trailing late, and have to go all gas no breaks. When we slow the game down, it's more than likely going to be a one score affair. This is also part of why our record correlates so closely with whether or not we win the opening coin toss. It's almost impossible to win the way we are playing if you don't win the "middle eight." 

I'm just not sure Bryce is the guy for the system Canales appears to want to run. I'm honestly not sure Chuba is the back for it either. 

impossible to throw out the rookie season.  Bryce is bad even under really good circumstances.  So yeah, a bad rookie version of Bryce being so bad.....had a great deal to do with that trainwreck being what it was.  Bryce was why the best landing spot for a rookie was an instant nightmare.  A really horrific QB was forced on a staff and team that can't do NFL basics. 

[mav1234]

4 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

I think people fail to realize, if you look at each drive, all the little “oops” plays add up.  Almost every drive, Bryce bails on a play.  If every drive I accept no yardage is a okay for a play.  But the. The next play my RB only gains 2 yards.  Then I try to throw again on 3rd down and 8 and I only gain 6 yards then we punt - that poo happens every fuging drive.  It isn’t the one play.  It’s the cumulative effect of Bryce.  It stagnates the offense completely.  And Canales has tried to give him the chance to showcase himself, like last night, and that is when you truly get to see how bad he is.  One throw away here, one scared to throw so I tuck it and run for a yard there, one could’ve ran it into the end zone myself but floated a loaf of bread to be picked off in the end zone in goal to go…  all that poo adds up.

This is why I'm not throwing canales out yet. Bryce is so incredibly bad at the routine plays that it's really hard to evaluate ... Anything 

[Jmac]

30 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

We tried throwing it all over the yard last night it didn't work. 

We even threw it in goal line situations it didn't work. 

They have two good running backs and a decent Oline, still cant fiqure it out. 

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Proudiddy said:

An article from SI shared by @Gregg S in another thread that deserved a closer look.  Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t.

https://www.si.com/nfl/time-for-panthers-to-move-on-from-bryce-young

Young was brilliant against the Falcons in a 30–27 overtime win last weekend, throwing for 448 yards and three touchdowns. In his other 10 starts, Young has 1,673 yards with 12 touchdowns and nine interceptions on 5.6 YPA. 

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Ultimately, none of it matters if Canales and general manager Dan Morgan can’t find better play at the game’s paramount position. Going into Monday night, Young had started 38 games (playing in 40). His career EPA is -269.1. For comparison, the embattled Tua Tagovailoa has started 39 games over that same span. His EPA is 123.1.

Since Young entered the NFL in 2023, he ranks 32nd of 32 qualifying quarterbacks (minimum of 900 plays) in EPA + CPOE at 0.029. He’s also last in success rate (41.9%) and EPA per play (-0.074). In short, he’s the worst quarterback in football since joining the NFL after starring at Alabama. 

This is the poo we need, though. Tepper has proven that while he won't listen to football people, he can be shamed through the media.

We need ESPN making this situation their personal whipping boy like they often do when beating a dead horse. 

That's probably the only legit scenario we move on from Tepper's little project player.

[electro's horse]

8 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

I think people fail to realize, if you look at each drive, all the little “oops” plays add up.  Almost every drive, Bryce bails on a play.  If every drive I accept no yardage is a okay for a play.  But the. The next play my RB only gains 2 yards.  Then I try to throw again on 3rd down and 8 and I only gain 6 yards then we punt - that poo happens every fuging drive.  It isn’t the one play.  It’s the cumulative effect of Bryce.  It stagnates the offense completely.  And Canales has tried to give him the chance to showcase himself, like last night, and that is when you truly get to see how bad he is.  One throw away here, one scared to throw so I tuck it and run for a yard there, one could’ve ran it into the end zone myself but floated a loaf of bread to be picked off in the end zone in goal to go…  all that poo adds up.

bryce's shittiness is like the bleeding mechanic from elden ring

just a million tiny little cuts that all add up and all of a sudden you're dead and youre not sure why

[Jmac]

Bryce is done, and Canales is next if he doesn't pull his head out his ass. 

[raleigh-panther]

43 minutes ago, ImfromClayton said:

This post is not defending Bryce young, but I do want to be as fair as possible.

Bryce's rookie year: Throw it out. Period. That was the most dysfunctional situation I've ever seen in the NFL.  Not just for the rookie QB, but for everyone involved. Fairly certain we had coaches on staff that weren't speaking to one another by the end of that season. The hatred was real. That said, he (Bryce) still hasn't been good enough. I would love to see these numbers without that season.  If anybody has a link for that, I'd appreciate it. 

Play calling. Canales has to make a decision about who we want to be. We jerk so much between trying to be a slow, methodical, efficient offense, and then going no huddle and throwing it all over the yard. I think part of the reason Bryce has the comebacks is because of course he's more consistent when we are throwing it all over the yard.  I think he's better when we are throwing it all over the yard. But that doesn't seem to be what Canales wants to do. This hybrid may be a coaches dream, and guys like Brady may have been able to do it, but Bryce simply can't. 

Edit: This hybrid/indecision in the playcalling and scheme is literally the reason Bryce has so many game winning drives. We try to play slow, and methodical, and take the air out of the ball every single game, every single possession, until the time and score dictate that we can't. Sometimes it works, and we dominate. In most games, we get about 6 possessions, and so does the other team, and it comes down to who plays better in the 4th quarter. When it doesn't work at all, we are trailing late, and have to go all gas no breaks. When we slow the game down, it's more than likely going to be a one score affair. This is also part of why our record correlates so closely with whether or not we win the opening coin toss. It's almost impossible to win the way we are playing if you don't win the "middle eight." 

I'm just not sure Bryce is the guy for the system Canales appears to want to run. I'm honestly not sure Chuba is the back for it either. 

either Canales or Young needs to go

Bryce in one play.   The interception in the end zone

1.  If he throws the ball without hesitation, touchdown to evans

2. If he runs it, touchdown 

3. If he throws it away because of the congestion in the end zone, the panthers keep the ball, and can either run it 3 times or run it twice, and kick a field goal

This mistake is not random. 

seen enough.  

[CPcavedweller]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Godalmighty, to see it laid out like that, and to know he still has people that support him, is just bat poo crazy

We have FOMO. What if Bryce leaves and becomes Drew Bree’s with the right staff? That’s what the Panthers are doing. 

[mrcompletely11]

9 minutes ago, CRA said:

impossible to throw out the rookie season.  Bryce is bad even under really good circumstances.  So yeah, a bad rookie version of Bryce being so bad.....had a great deal to do with that trainwreck being what it was.  Bryce was why the best landing spot for a rookie was an instant nightmare.  A really horrific QB was forced on a staff and team that can't do NFL basics. 

If the people who want to throw out his rookie season does that mean we get the year back in contract terms?