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Official Week 18: Panthers @ Buccaneers Gameday Thread


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Just now, Montsta said:

Be honest. What team would give up a draft pick for Bryce Young? Even Brock Purdy was pick 256 so there is a very very good chance whoever you pick will be better than BY even if he is picked out of DeVry University with last pick of the last round. 

It won’t matter he is here to stay, he somehow has a cheat code to avoid negative press and espn and random podcasts hype him up…and Tepper listens to them. 

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This was going to be manages towards a Bucs win no matter what today and the referees made that clear. No matter what happened today, the NFL was going to nudge this game towards Tampa. And we will see New Orleans probably get some preferential treatment as well. The announcers talking about the Falcons Saints game before this one is even over. It was always scripted. 

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Just now, TN05 said:

It's Bryce's fault we had two drops, Rico fumbled, and we have 20 rushing yards between our two backs.

It kind of is though. You realize defenses play our running game so tough in the box because they know we have a JV quarterback right?

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3 minutes ago, TN05 said:

We have 19 yards rushing in this entire game and somehow it's getting blamed on Bryce.

BY played good, but Tampa followed the blueprint, stop the run game and BY can’t do enough to win it in the air. 

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We lost the game because of Canales. Stupid FG attempt from 50 yards and that dumb flea flicker play call. Refs fugged us too but the game was still there to be won despite that. Canales needs to go be a OC somewhere for a few more years and we need a new QB and HC.

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