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Is J-Stew a team propagandist?


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15 minutes ago, OneBadCat said:

I mean yes. But also he’s a former pro and knows the game better than 90% of people.

True maybe, but I admittedly don't necessarily pay NFL types as much deference as others, as over the years I've seen them be wrong aplenty, so much so that perhaps I'm just jaundiced, or at least callous, to some of their proclamations. I mean, after watching the game in earnest for somewhere around a half century, admittedly the eye test seems to take on, sometimes exaggerated, importance. You do get to know a thing or two about the game over that span as well and develop some insights that younger fans may not have. Moreover, keep in mind that players, coaches and execs disagree on many things football all the time, so there's a certain amount of dart throwing that is inherent within the beast.

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Some of you people are so weird about this stuff. Here’s an idea, why don’t you go on social media, make sure your boss sees what you say, and start trashing the company you work for.

We actually need more team propagandists in the media, not less. Us being the only ones with this weird code about our former players and media members needing to not promote the team and players is how things like Derrick Brown not making the pro bowl happen.

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1 hour ago, TD alt said:

If everyone agrees on everything all the time in a football forum, then that should tell you something. If people have varying degrees of disagreement and are constantly going back and forth, presenting statistics, information and knowledge based upon experience and the experience of those who are NFL types, that should tell you something also. Being a fan is not necessarily just about mindless cheerleading, although some fans do that. 

100% agree. That is also very different than objectivity. 

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He's a fan of the team but it's still no telling on where they stand with Bryce. If you ask me, there are serious  internal  conversations  from those that question Bryce. Usually Qbs the team is confident  about, you barely hear in year 4 of questions remaining. The team is going to see how year 4 looks  and go from that. I definitely  can tell they are adding some talent to that room off Canales  and Morgan  recent press conferences. 

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"We actually need more team propagandists in the media"

The last thing the decision makers of this franchise need is more people heaping unearned praise onto them 24/7. That's how you end up being irrelevant for a decade. Which we just did. How about let these folks actually prove any level of consistency.

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7 minutes ago, frankw said:

"We actually need more team propagandists in the media"

The last thing the decision makers of this franchise need is more people heaping unearned praise onto them 24/7. That's how you end up being irrelevant for a decade. Which we just did. How about let these folks actually prove any level of consistency.

Any decision maker making decisions based off what the media says, good or bad, isn't a good decision maker.

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2 hours ago, WUnderhill said:

Some of you people are so weird about this stuff. Here’s an idea, why don’t you go on social media, make sure your boss sees what you say, and start trashing the company you work for.

We actually need more team propagandists in the media, not less. Us being the only ones with this weird code about our former players and media members needing to not promote the team and players is how things like Derrick Brown not making the pro bowl happen.

And remember how the vast majority of us here on this board spend a lot of time in the locker room, on the bench and going out to dinner with the current players and coaches of the team. Who better than us to have our fingers on the pulse of what's really happening in the real Panthers.

Sometimes our surety of statements around here gets so very, very thick.

 

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9 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

And remember how the vast majority of us here on this board spend a lot of time in the locker room, on the bench and going out to dinner with the current players and coaches of the team. Who better than us to have our fingers on the pulse of what's really happening in the real Panthers.

Sometimes our surety of statements around here gets so very, very thick.

 

Like I mentioned in another post, all players, coaches and execs don't agree all the time, so having your fingers on the pulse of the team because you know people isn't necessarily a litmus test for what is still ultimately an opinion.

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