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Everyone Says BPA. Panthers Won’t.

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5 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

Some of you need some serious help with the way 9 lives rent free in your heads

I know for a fact, Dan loves Bryce. Bryce is his guy. This offense is very young and they’re asking Bryce to do a lot. With Idzik taking over playcalling duties it’s a move that is another step in the process of Bryce taking control of the offense. 24 years old. This youth movement on offense and putting more on 9’s shoulders is going to pay off in the long run

Well it hasn't paid off in 3 years - so let's double down and give him 2 more years of replacement level play, eh?

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Tommy Tremble should be the starter, TJ is just some guy that had flashes his 1st yr before injurys slowed him down. Evans is a blocking TE that can slip out at 2

OT or DL look to be the best outcome for BPA and need if right guy is there

 

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7 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Well it hasn't paid off in 3 years - so let's double down and give him 2 more years of replacement level play, eh?

We aren't drafting a QB in round 1 so just accept it and save yourself a lot of stress. 

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14 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

Some of you need some serious help with the way 9 lives rent free in your heads

I know for a fact, Dan loves Bryce. Bryce is his guy. This offense is very young and they’re asking Bryce to do a lot. With Idzik taking over playcalling duties it’s a move that is another step in the process of Bryce taking control of the offense. 24 years old. This youth movement on offense and putting more on 9’s shoulders is going to pay off in the long run

I mean, the most important position on the roster is our biggest limitation currently. 

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When are you guys going to learn the the Panthers draft board is nothing like any draft board you are using. They are drafting the best player left on their board. Every team does the same thing. Thats why the so called draft gurus like DJ and Mel never get anything right. 

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The list of prospects by rd that was posted earlier that I saw looked like all the first round guys we've met so far were defensive, DT/LB/and Edge. Obviously there will be more and probably missed somebody but just stood out to me

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15 hours ago, frankw said:

I mean I'd like to add a monster TE as much as anyone else but ultimately what use will that serve with a QB who had 54 passing yards in 4 quarters at one point last season?

Defense defense defense.

the way you fix this is with a monster TE, yall complain about the QB play when no one on this offense scares anyone. no defense is afraid of the their matchup against Tommy Tremble 

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11 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Well it hasn't paid off in 3 years - so let's double down and give him 2 more years of replacement level play, eh?

Yeah let’s put some cool rims on that Vega. It will be right there with the Camaro and Vette. 

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8 hours ago, countryboi said:

the way you fix this is with a monster TE, yall complain about the QB play when no one on this offense scares anyone. no defense is afraid of the their matchup against Tommy Tremble 

Ah yes a typical Bryce Young Defense Force post. No mention of the reigning Rookie of the Year or the #1 highest paid OL in the league two years in a row. Yes clearly our QB just needs All Pros at every position. We'll get right on that.

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CJ Allen is being mad undersold here.

He’s very much a lock for the 1st and the next LB behind Styles/Reese. Totally in play with the available OL, McNeil-Warren and some others at 19. If you look at our holes and who creates the most, surest, immediate impact it’s Allen and M-W for me.

His game is complete, balanced skillset, top defender, leader, all pluses. 

Hill Jr has the upside but isn’t in his tier. He is more Rodriguez/Lawson/Louis/Golday/Trotter in the offball group. That whole tier will be hard to predict order wise bc it’s in the eye of the beholder/what teams think fits best. All have great skills but aren’t on Allen’s level.

No order but Thieneman, CJ Allen, Freeling, Fano, McNeil-Warren, Mesidor, and sure Saddiq will all be in consideration. 

It will come down to who really gives us the biggest impact and long term fit. It’s a fun group to think on.

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24 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

CJ Allen is being mad undersold here.

He’s very much a lock for the 1st and the next LB behind Styles/Reese. Totally in play with the available OL, McNeil-Warren and some others at 19. If you look at our holes and who creates the most, surest, immediate impact it’s Allen and M-W for me.

His game is complete, balanced skillset, top defender, leader, all pluses. 

Hill Jr has the upside but isn’t in his tier. He is more Rodriguez/Lawson/Louis/Golday/Trotter in the offball group. That whole tier will be hard to predict order wise bc it’s in the eye of the beholder/what teams think fits best. All have great skills but aren’t on Allen’s level.

No order but Thieneman, CJ Allen, Freeling, Fano, McNeil-Warren, Mesidor, and sure Saddiq will all be in consideration. 

It will come down to who really gives us the biggest impact and long term fit. It’s a fun group to think on.

CJ Allen has been touted as the ideal MLB in this class. He was one of the few top ILBs not to work out at the Combine so his Pro Day will be interesting to watch.

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      2027: Sharing my thoughts on the cap without a lotta research

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