The "now it's been three years" Grade for the 2023 Draft

[Steves89]

Didn't  see this posted (since 2023) but since folks have been posting that you can't judge a draft class for three years (a ridiculous take), I thought I'd post this to see what people thought about the 2023 draft. Unfortunately this may not be the most interesting class to do this with but I do quite like retrospective draft grades. Would appreciate other's takes on this (and other recent) draft classes.

 

1(1) - Bryce Young QB: I am a bigger Bryce Young apologist than most (maybe all). I like the kid. But there is no way around it: This was a terrible pick. If he had been picked in the 4th or even the 3rd round I would feel pretty good about it. But this was the first overall pick that we gave up two firsts, our best offensive player to get. 

GRADE: C - 

 

2(39) - Jonathan Mingo WR: not much to say here here. He was here for two years. His yards per catch are on par with Bryce's yards per pass. Rough stuff. To date he has still never scored a touchdown in the NFL

GRADE: F

 

3(80) - DJ Johnson OLB: a pick I hated as soon as it happened and an example of why the premise of this thread is honestly dumb. This was a bad pick when it happened. Most people knew it.  Then came training camp and he did not look good. Then came the preseason which confirmed what we saw in TC. Then came the season which confirmed what we saw in preseason. To date, he has half a sack in his career.

GRADE: F

4 (114) Chandlers Zavala G: Honestly the best pick of this draft which really speaks to how awful this draft is. Other than Bryce, the only pick still on the team. He is mostly average or below average depth which in round 4 is not terrible. But he had a pff score of 43.5 and though I think people have unrealistic expectations for draft picks, I still would want a little more from a fourth round pick

GRADE: C+

 

5 (145) - Jammie Robinson S: I liked the pick when it happened but ended up being a disappointment. He logged 1 tackle with the falcons last year and not enough snaps to get a grade on PFF. 

GRADE: F

OVERALL DRAFT GRADE: F

 

[lumbeecheraw75]

overall agree on the draft grade as a whole on on each pick, but every time I read (and I have read it more than once) that we "gave up two firsts" for Bryce, I am confused. We gave up the 2024 first, but we swapped 2023 firsts, so we didn't give up anything there. We did give up our former first rounder in DJ, but I don't think thats what you mean as one of the "firsts" we gave up.

[Mage]

Scott Fitterer was so bad, man.

[jfra78]

1 hour ago, lumbeecheraw75 said:

overall agree on the draft grade as a whole on on each pick, but every time I read (and I have read it more than once) that we "gave up two firsts" for Bryce, I am confused. We gave up the 2024 first, but we swapped 2023 firsts, so we didn't give up anything there. We did give up our former first rounder in DJ, but I don't think thats what you mean as one of the "firsts" we gave up.

Because it's the same thing.  Saying we didn't give up anything because its a swap is wrong.  If we gave up nothing then it would only be 1 first round pick.  If it makes you feel better about the trade then say swap.  Only thing that would make me feel good about the trade would be Stroud.

[BIGH2001]

1 hour ago, jfra78 said:

Because it's the same thing.  Saying we didn't give up anything because its a swap is wrong.  If we gave up nothing then it would only be 1 first round pick.  If it makes you feel better about the trade then say swap.  Only thing that would make me feel good about the trade would be Stroud.

Has stroud really been better outside of his rookie year? 

[jfra78]

13 minutes ago, BIGH2001 said:

Has stroud really been better outside of his rookie year? 

Yes

[TLGPanthersFan]

Yeah 2023 was a terrible draft. Biggest thing was it was not the year to trade up. 
 

[mrcompletely11]

17 minutes ago, BIGH2001 said:

Has stroud really been better outside of his rookie year? 

Is that a serious question? 

[mrcompletely11]

3 hours ago, Mage said:

Scott Fitterer was so bad, man.

Somewhere mr scot is kicking a dog

[WUnderhill]

So glad we can finally talk about these picks. I’m sure none of the “3 years” folks made any judgments about them year 1 or year 2.

[Steves89]

4 hours ago, lumbeecheraw75 said:

overall agree on the draft grade as a whole on on each pick, but every time I read (and I have read it more than once) that we "gave up two firsts" for Bryce, I am confused. We gave up the 2024 first, but we swapped 2023 firsts, so we didn't give up anything there. We did give up our former first rounder in DJ, but I don't think thats what you mean as one of the "firsts" we gave up.

Maybe “gave up” is the wrong term. But he cost us two firsts (and then some) because that is what we spent to get him. In the same way I would say we spent a 1st on Freeling. We didn’t trade anything to get him but we we didn’t get him for free. We still spent a pick. 

[WhoKnows]

3 minutes ago, Steves89 said:

Maybe “gave up” is the wrong term. But he cost us two firsts (and then some) because that is what we spent to get him. In the same way I would say we spent a 1st on Freeling. We didn’t trade anything to get him but we we didn’t get him for free. We still spent a pick. 

Gave up is fine. We could have had Jalen Carter/Williams or Maye/+++++++ so to actually have Young on our team we gave up/used 2 1sts plus more.

[OldhamA]

Franchise crippling Draft. We're still digging ourselves out of that hole.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Year 1 : "Bryce sucks" .... "YoU CaNt tAlk aBoUt it unTiL yEAr thRee!"

Year 2: "Bryce sucks" .... "YoU CaNt tAlk aBoUt it unTiL yEAr thRee!"

Year 3 : "Bryce sucks" .... "I don't wanna talk about it"