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Jimmy Garroppolo


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IMO the Pats are selling fools gold, Polo is in the last year of his deal, and any team trading for him would have to extend him this season, next, or offer the tag. 

If I'm one of those teams at the top, I'm taking the QB I believe has the best chance to develop and succeed. I will live with the rookie deal while we determine that while using the cap room to help solidify the roster in other areas to keep the pressure on the young QB as low as possible. 

There have been to many examples of QBs looking good for a hand full of games or less and flaming out after being traded/signed to big deals. Matt Flynn, Matt Shaub, Matt Cassell <<< trend on the name Matt. I think Polo falls into that same trap for other GMs if they take that risk. 

If Polo eventually replaces Brady ON THE PATRIOTS  I think he will be a 10+ win QB. Elsewhere I can't see it based off the limited games played. 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Tim Brady is 39 years old. If Belichick thought Garoppolo was anything special, he wouldn't be willing to trade him. The fact that he is willing to trade him tells me that Belichick knows he's nothing special and he can just draft another one.

Brady plans to play for another five years. That's an eternity in the NFL, but I get your point.

Jimmy G looks good though.

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7 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Brady plans to play for another five years. That's an eternity in the NFL, but I get your point.

Jimmy G looks good though.

Brady's play will drop off in the next year or two, and it'll be an immediate huge drop off, not a gradual one. That's what happens with old QBs. Favre was the best QB in the league with the Vikings his last year there and all of a sudden after that, the worst. Peyton was the best in '13 and '14 and in '15, the worst. Brady's no different. It may come a little bit later than those QBs but no matter how well you've mastered the position, when you lose your arm, you're done. I bet Brady is retired at this time in 2 years.

He looked good the first couple games this year that's true, but I'd be extremely weary. Every QB under Belichick in NE has looked not only good, but great. That's why I'm far from convinced Brady's even a top 5 QB, let alone the GOAT. Yes he's won the most and is clearly a HoF and one of the best of his generation, but what other QBs had such a great head coach? Belichick can make almost any QB a Hall of Famer, if you ask me. And I'd probably admire the guy if he weren't a cheating scumbag. Makes you wonder why, when he's so good at coaching, he felt the need to go beyond the rules.

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For New England it's a no brainer in my mind. The Pats are in the ultimate win now mode. They know they probably have three years left of Brady. Trading Jimmy might hurt in them in the longterm but boosts their short term drastically. 

 

I'd be wary but if you're a team like Cleveland, what do you have to lose. You probably were drafting a bust with that pick anyways. 

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