Mel Kiper's First 2019 Mock - 01/17/19

[tondi]

59 minutes ago, stbugs said:

It’s a good thing for us. Thompson in some draft info may be falling to the 3rd with the way he ended the season (bad against Clemson). FA safeties abound and like last year they weren’t paid much. Mathieu got the most at $7m for 1 season. We should be able to sign Reid pretty cheap and honey get a guy like Collins or Mathieu for not much more. They’re really devalued contract wise.

Positional value comes into play with first round picks as well. Do you really want to invest a pick in a safety when they are among the cheapest positions to fill via free agency?  Makes more sense to go with a position where you either can't find quality free agents or they cost a fortune.  

[trueblade]

3 minutes ago, JARROD said:

That’s true. I guess if you really had everything you need, a complete team and you were really one piece away then ok.

we suck— and one draft and FA with Cam on the mend isn’t going to win us a Super Bowl so I think I would throw up if Hurney pulled a 2008. We all want to forget what happened the next 2 seasons thereafter.

yuck

Hurney had to be talked out of trading a future first, the very pick the Panthers would use to select Cam Newton. It's the one story that gives me pause going into every draft with him at the helm, despite his performance in the 18 draft.

[Ace_Aladdin]

3 hours ago, Toomers said:

I would be fine with the next selection on there- Simmons is a beast. 

  

Simmons is BPA for Panthers 

Stopping the run 

Comands double team

Can rush passer

 Can line up as DE

Can run sideline to sideline 

Tackles for loss 

etc etc , will Turn Luke back into 2015 form.

[JARROD]

1 minute ago, Ace_Aladdin said:

Simmons is BPA for Panthers 

Stopping the run 

Comands double team

Can rush passer

 Can line up as DE

Can run sideline to sideline 

Tackles for loss 

etc etc , will Turn Luke back into 2015 form.

If he’s the pick, then he is. I like that you have a choice that you put out there— nothing bad I can say about the pick—

i think from watching the videos and draft reports that Ed Oliver would be better,.. but who knows. Some have compared Ed to Aaron Donald— 

if we traded short and drafted one of these and used the draft picks from Short to draft another DE, a Center, DB or even another tightend I would be happy.

[mc52beast]

Of course everything depends on what Hurney does in FA but I can pretty much guarantee you that he isn’t drafting someone that could possibly grow into a DE...

 

I know more about rocket science than Kiper knows about football

[Mistuh Jones]

LMAO only if we DO switch to a 3-4 

but even then in the 1st? Naw son

[Pimpdaddy]

3 hours ago, bull123 said:

kiper...what a dimwit

He actually makes Walter Football look legit...lol

[Icege]

Mel Kiper huffs Dapper Dan before every mock draft that he does

[AU-panther]

I know it is cool to make fun of media types but to expect these guys to exactly match the player to the team is a bit unrealistic.  All it takes is one team early to pick someone different to have a trickledown effect all the down the first round.

What you are looking for is the range that they have these players and a lot of these guys tend to be very accurate.  That’s not to say that Kiper is the best or worst but people need to look at the ranges. 

Personally im a bit surprised the BC DE isn’t on the list.  Also the i lineman are a bit higher than I expected.  I think  a few of them might be there at 16.

 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Just mock a corner to us like all the other lazy draftniks and call it a day Kiper

[4Corners]

1 minute ago, Truck Stick said:

Kiper is such a fuging moron

If he knew what he was talking about he would be working for a NFL team. His roster accessement is usually well below par. This is an awful pick he has us down as. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Undersized FSU pass rushers have a terrible track record in the NFL.

[jfra78]

44 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

I know it is cool to make fun of media types but to expect these guys to exactly match the player to the team is a bit unrealistic.  All it takes is one team early to pick someone different to have a trickledown effect all the down the first round.

What you are looking for is the range that they have these players and a lot of these guys tend to be very accurate.  That’s not to say that Kiper is the best or worst but people need to look at the ranges. 

Personally im a bit surprised the BC DE isn’t on the list.  Also the i lineman are a bit higher than I expected.  I think  a few of them might be there at 16.

 

Kiper has one job and that is to make mock drafts.  He should know the needs of the teams at least

[Black&BlueBubba]

2 hours ago, JARROD said:

I like Jawann Taylor and Risner— Taylor would have to start on the right but I like his motor and ability— doesn’t seem like he would be lazy.

he looks like he has all the talent to move to the left at some point too.

it would be awesome if he fell to our 2nd pick, dont think so— half the mock drafts have him in the top 20.

I think either Taylor or Williams might be there for us at 16.  We just need a couple QB hungry teams to go get Haskins and Murray.  Or have another sleeper QB emerge like Trabisky did to help us out.  Depending who teams rank higher one of those tackles should go before us.  But the other might be available.  

If the Bengles or lions don’t go for White from LSU he might be there as well.  But I’m not sure about drafting another LB.