Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Which do you prefer??


Sub Zero

Recommended Posts

Comparison of prospects that might be available to us..

Sweat - Big upside athlete.. has 2 years of solid production against good Sec competition.. But does have a lower floor because of technical knowledge of position.. He has live off of being the best athlete on the field..Did take him 2 years on the bench to be the player he is.. Might not be a day 1 starter.. But could be a 14 to 18 sack guy..

Ferrell- not as big of upside as Sweat.. But not as low of floor either.. 3 years of production against good competition in ACc .. He came in right away in college and produced.. More technically sound and has move pass rush moves right now.. Is a day one starter.. But might never be more than a CJ a 10 to 12 sack guy..

Gary - Very high upside was a top 5 player in the country coming out of highschool.. Versatility king can play in any scheme and in the 43 could play all over the dline.. More physically imposing then the other 2.. Could fit any scheme we play and is probably the best fit for this team.. Problem is never lived up to expectations in college. Played injured often at UM.. Flashed dominance but never consistently.. No where near the production the other 2 have.. Dilemma with him is he has the big p word "potential".. Potentially Gary could be JJ Watts a DPOY candidate every year or he can be a total bust..

Question is how would you rank these 3 in your opinion who do you want more from 1 to 3?

I go

1. Ferrell

2. Sweat

3. Gary

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1. Burns- versatile.  True 3-4 OLB, solid athlete.  Great Bend and nose for the QB. And showed at the combine he can drop back in coverage as good as any LB in this class including Devin White etc.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap3000001020714/Brian-Burns-makes-incredibly-athletic-catch-in-OLB-coverage-drill

 

 

2. Sweat- big athletic beast edge rusher, looooong arms.  

3. Gary- only fits as a 3-4 DE in our new D.  Not going to be a OLB.  Freak, helps in the trenches

4. Ferrell- just not a good fit for our new D.  Great for a traditional 4-3, but in the 3-4 not so much 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, ncfan said:

1. Burns- versatile.  True 3-4 OLB, solid athlete.  Great Bend and nose for the QB. And showed at the combine he can drop back in coverage as good as any LB in this class including Devin White etc.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap3000001020714/Brian-Burns-makes-incredibly-athletic-catch-in-OLB-coverage-drill

 

 

2. Sweat- big athletic beast edge rusher, looooong arms.  

3. Gary- only fits as a 3-4 DE in our new D.  Not going to be a OLB.  Freak, helps in the trenches

4. Ferrell- just not a good fit for our new D.  Great for a traditional 4-3, but in the 3-4 not so much 

This please. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 minutes ago, ncfan said:

1. Burns- versatile.  True 3-4 OLB, solid athlete.  Great Bend and nose for the QB. And showed at the combine he can drop back in coverage as good as any LB in this class including Devin White etc.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap3000001020714/Brian-Burns-makes-incredibly-athletic-catch-in-OLB-coverage-drill

 

 

2. Sweat- big athletic beast edge rusher, looooong arms.  

3. Gary- only fits as a 3-4 DE in our new D.  Not going to be a OLB.  Freak, helps in the trenches

4. Ferrell- just not a good fit for our new D.  Great for a traditional 4-3, but in the 3-4 not so much 

I prefer burns as well but if I'm sticking the OPs question. 

Sweat

Ferrell

Gary

Gary is the type of player we always fall in love with but the tape doesn't lie. Despite his superior athleticism in an unathletic conference, he's been pedestrian. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

My non-expert opinion

Gary 

Sweat 

Ferrell 

I would also prefer Burns, but am not sure either he or Sweat will be available. I'm kinda lukewarm on Gary and Ferrell, but also remember some of the same concerns about Julius Peppers when he was drafted (takes plays off; not always motivated).

I'd be happy with any of the three, actually. If two of them are on the board when the Panthers draft, I'd even entertain a trade down a few spots to pick up more picks.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

57 minutes ago, ncfan said:

1. Burns- versatile.  True 3-4 OLB, solid athlete.  Great Bend and nose for the QB. And showed at the combine he can drop back in coverage as good as any LB in this class including Devin White etc.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap3000001020714/Brian-Burns-makes-incredibly-athletic-catch-in-OLB-coverage-drill

 

 

2. Sweat- big athletic beast edge rusher, looooong arms.  

3. Gary- only fits as a 3-4 DE in our new D.  Not going to be a OLB.  Freak, helps in the trenches

4. Ferrell- just not a good fit for our new D.  Great for a traditional 4-3, but in the 3-4 not so much 

Should have added Burns because he is a option.. As a 3/4 OLB he is probably the best out of this group.. But he isn't a day 1 starter in our Base 4/3 defense until he gains weight and strength.. So he would be 4th on my list.. I think the other 3 are day one starters or close to it.. I think Burns is s 3/4 OLb or a situational Paas Rusher in our base defense..

I dont get your number 3 and 4 opinion at all..

You need to rewatch Gary stuff.. This kid day one can come in and be a CJ type of player but better.. 1. He is probably and Potentially the best run defender of the 4 because of size and strength.. Easily he's the biggest and strongest of the 4.  He can play DE in the 4/3 on run downs and move to 3 tech on passing downs.. Or play DE in the 3/4.. Easily he is the most versatile on the list.. He's the best fit for our team.. He just a boom or bust prospect.   Which is why I have him 3rd on my list..

4. The hate for Ferrell here is strange.. Dude is the most polished,  the most productive, and is the realist to start day one on the list.. He can be a 3/4 OLB and a 43 DE day 1.. He was the highest rated for the longest and was a day 1 contributor on a top team as a freshman in college.. He isn't the most athletic on this list but he is the one with the least holes in his game.. He is a great fit for this team..

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I’ve haven’t seen anything that says we have interest in Njoku?
    • I think the Njoku interest revealed intent and the type of TE they want.  I really expected more from Sanders.
    • Defensive tackle (or end in a 3-4 base) is suddenly a rather significant need.  It seems to be a forbidden topic on the Huddle.  Well I am going to unforbidden it for this thread. When we lost Robinson, it was a salary cap cutting move, saving us about $9m or so, I think.  That suggests that we are going to get cheaper, younger, and maybe, more multi-dimensional.  First, what did we lose in Robinson: (Charlotte Observer)  "Robinson co-led the team in sacks (5.5) in 2024, and he ranked second among Carolina linemen, behind Brown, in sacks (2.5) in 2025. (Derrick) Brown played on 76.4% of the Panthers’ defensive snaps last year, while Robinson played on 62.2% of those reps. No other defensive lineman played more than 38.3%, as free-agent addition, Turk Wharton, dealt with injuries throughout his first season in Carolina. Wharton played in just nine games, producing 36 total tackles and two sacks. He’s guaranteed $14 million this upcoming season. Read more at: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article314544998.html#storylink=cpy OK, about Turk Wharton.  The Observer claims that he and Bobby Brown III were to rotate into the Robinson DE position, but that is too weird for my head to comprehend.  First, Brown III is a NT by trade and Wharton weighs about 280 lbs and is not stout vs. the run.  Brown III is not going to provide the internal pass pressure; he is basically designed to take on double teams and dig in.  Wharton, on the other hand, had a PFF score in those 9 games of 40 or so.  In fairness, he was playing with injuries, but Damn.  PFF gives me a higher rating at the Golden Corral buffet.  In other words, we need a true DT who can fill the two thirds of snaps that we just released.  We can't count on Turk and Brown III is not the answer.  Cam Jackson?  Same as Brown.  Have your people do what they do best.  Furthermore, Derrick Brown probably should limit his snaps.  Playing more than 3/4 of the snaps is hard on the body.  A tired player in the trenches is more prone to lower-body injuries. We need a player who can give Derrick Brown some relief and play opposite him as well.  Turk can rotate in but he needs to shoot gaps and give Guards and tackles fits--a change of pace.   I have to think we are going to draft DT much sooner than most Huddlers realize.  My favorite, you didn't ask? Probable second-rounder Gracen Halton (No. 59 overall, according to ESPN's March 2026 update). Once considered a Day 3 sleeper, his 2026 NFL draft stock has exploded into Round 2 or 3 due to elite interior pass-rush metrics.  Projected Round: 2 (Early to Mid) Key Traits: Elite explosive, quickness, 12.2%+ pass-rush win rate, and positional versatility to play inside on passing downs. Combine Highlights: Led defensive tackles in the vertical jump (36.5”) and broad jump, per Sports Illustrated. Draft Stock: Rising fast due to consistent 2025 production (7 tackles for loss) and a "freak show" combine performance, according to Stormin in Norman.  Halton is considered a high-motor playmaker and a potential Day 2 standout, notes   I would not be surprised to see DT on day 2.  
×
×
  • Create New...