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the bye week is giving me some perspective


hepcat

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I usually plan my Sunday around watching the Panthers game, but this weekend there no such need.

I actually feel good about that. I'm glad there isn't a Panthers game this weekend. 

Fans keep saying "it's a growing season" and "we were expected to be bad". Yes, I know that. It still doesn't take the sting away from a third straight losing season featuring huge losing streaks. 

Despite some bright spots from this season, I am still beaten down by the fact that this is generally a miserable team to root for. During the Superbowl era, the Panthers only have 7 winning seasons out of 26 years. It is the worst winning percentage (of winning seasons vs losing seasons) of any franchise in the NFL over the course of their existence, tied with the Jaguars.

And after last week's Meltdown in Minnesota, a loss that looked painfully familiar to dozens of other Panthers games from over the last two decades, I wonder if anything will ever really change.

Of course, there are some bright spots from this season. There are some good young players to watch. And there have been a few fun moments amongst the many bad ones.

But for now, I'm thankful it's the bye week. And we don't have to watch the Panthers lose yet again.

I hope things are better next year.

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In the covid era, I’m just glad for sports in general and football period 

we knew what this year was going to be.the problem is they gave us hope lol

sime answers are coming that should help with the draft 

I’ve never been one to go qb in the first around but after seeing Teddy a d if they want to quickly ascend, they need to do it 

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I like to win but how you win matters as well. I want us to be aggressive on both sides of the ball. This is the season to go for broke with very low expectations. If we are this conservative on defense now imagine what happens when it is a pressure cooker. And Teddy for pete's sake toss it downfield sometimes. The few times you throw it to Moore and Samuel good things happen. Stop throwing it 5 yards when you need 8 on 3rd down.

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Until Marty Hurney is gone this franchise will be mediocre at best. We need a true GM and a front office committed to wining the SB. Tepper has said nice things and has put the money up but he's also shown he's a rookie owner by keeping a guy who has put 3 winning season together in over a decade. That's not a GM that gets you a Super Bowl and it's not a winning culture. You can't really blame fans for not having excitement when your GM has let all the talent walk and put you in cap hell twice. That's how the Browns and the Lions play Football not the Steelers and Patriots. 

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10 hours ago, hepcat said:

Despite some bright spots from this season, I am still beaten down by the fact that this is generally a miserable team to root for. During the Superbowl era, the Panthers only have 7 winning seasons out of 26 years. It is the worst winning percentage (of winning seasons vs losing seasons) of any franchise in the NFL over the course of their existence, tied with the Jaguars.

Damn.

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8 hours ago, bigdog10 said:

Apathy has gripped this fan base. I saw an article where we rank in the bottom five in local market tv viewership. We have slipped back into the 2009-2010 era in panther football. 
 

This team desperately needs to start winning games next year. 

Wow.  That's really bad...  but, that's a byproduct of losing Cam and Luke in the same offseason and replacing them with run-of-the-mill backups.

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I try to be positive and look at the bright side.  We have a motivating coach in Rhule.  A lot of talented young players that should be our core for many years to come.  

I, like many of you, want Hurney gone.  I think my whole optimism for this team balances on whether we retain Hurney for another season.  Each year we want him gone but like a bad cold he just keeps lingering around.   

Too bad Tepper doesn't read this forum.  You know it's not just some troll hanging out here thinking we should fire a good GM.  We have some many knowledgeable posters.  It's hard not to believe that part of our problem is our GM.

 

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