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What Rhule wants in a GM


Mr. Scot

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Audio clip from an interview with Gil Brandt and Alex Marvez on Sirius XM...

Things he's looking for:

- Someone who's great at finding / evaluating talent and building a roster
- Someone who knows the ins and outs of the salary cap and league rules
- Someone who has the same vision he does, but not necessarily always complete agreement

For me, I like that Rhule says he wants to work with someone who disagrees with him and will even fight with him. In the ego driven world of the NFL, it's a very good thing to have a leader who's willing to accept that sometimes he might be wrong.

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2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Audio clip from an interview with Gil Brandt and Alex Marvez on Sirius XM...

Things he's looking for:

- Someone who's great at finding / evaluating talent and building a roster
- Someone who knows the ins and outs of the salary cap and league rules
- Someone who has the same vision he does, but not necessarily always complete agreement

For me, I like that Rhule says he wants to work with someone who disagrees with him and will even fight with him. In the ego driven world of the NFL, it's a very good thing to have a leader who's willing to accept that sometimes he might be wrong.

To be honest, I think this way of thinking will make this job even more attractive to potential GM candidates.  Unlike that PFT nonsense where Florio tried to say that some GM candidates might be turned off of this job because it's essentially Rhule's team, this indicates that Rhule wants a true collaboration and not some underling with a title. 

And based on everything we have seen and heard from Rhule, this is the attitude I was expecting.  He wants a big voice in the decisions, but he also wants a partner to work with in building the team.  It's why I tend to agree with what you've said before that the new GM will likely be someone that Rhule already has a relationship with.  Rhule will want a guy that he knows how they think and whom he is confident will mesh with his style and philosophy.   And while I think a guy like Colbert would bring invaluable experience, I don't think his relationship with Tepper would be enough to make Rhule completely comfortable.  And I really don't see Tepper forcing his guy on Rhule anyway, not after giving him the keys to the kingdom.

 

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4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Audio clip from an interview with Gil Brandt and Alex Marvez on Sirius XM...

Things he's looking for:

- Someone who's great at finding / evaluating talent and building a roster
- Someone who knows the ins and outs of the salary cap and league rules
- Someone who has the same vision he does, but not necessarily always complete agreement

For me, I like that Rhule says he wants to work with someone who disagrees with him and will even fight with him. In the ego driven world of the NFL, it's a very good thing to have a leader who's willing to accept that sometimes he might be wrong.

Everything said here sounds great. People mocked Rhule for saying he was looking forward to working with Cam and then Cam got cut and people bashed Rhule for it. Maybe he didn’t actually want Teddy and that was a Hurney choice. Maybe Rhule told Hurney he wanted a bridge QB to find his own guy so don’t extend Newton and Hurney took that as cut Cam and bring in Bridgewater. At that point what is the coach going to say? We didn’t want him here? He’s going to compliment Teddy. Coaches compliment their starter. 
 

The Teddy contract might have been the undoing of Hurney because it’s clear Teddy isn’t the guy and they gave it long enough to scout it out and see it. 

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40 minutes ago, Varking said:

Everything said here sounds great. People mocked Rhule for saying he was looking forward to working with Cam and then Cam got cut and people bashed Rhule for it. Maybe he didn’t actually want Teddy and that was a Hurney choice. Maybe Rhule told Hurney he wanted a bridge QB to find his own guy so don’t extend Newton and Hurney took that as cut Cam and bring in Bridgewater. At that point what is the coach going to say? We didn’t want him here? He’s going to compliment Teddy. Coaches compliment their starter. 
 

The Teddy contract might have been the undoing of Hurney because it’s clear Teddy isn’t the guy and they gave it long enough to scout it out and see it. 

Weirdly enough. I’m okay with the contract. He’s out after this year, and he can mentor Fields or Wilson. I’m good. 

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1 hour ago, Varking said:

Everything said here sounds great. People mocked Rhule for saying he was looking forward to working with Cam and then Cam got cut and people bashed Rhule for it. Maybe he didn’t actually want Teddy and that was a Hurney choice. Maybe Rhule told Hurney he wanted a bridge QB to find his own guy so don’t extend Newton and Hurney took that as cut Cam and bring in Bridgewater. At that point what is the coach going to say? We didn’t want him here? He’s going to compliment Teddy. Coaches compliment their starter. 
 

The Teddy contract might have been the undoing of Hurney because it’s clear Teddy isn’t the guy and they gave it long enough to scout it out and see it. 

Very possible. It's unfortunate that we'll never really know. Just because Teddy had worked with Brady before, and of course the coaches talked Teddy up after he was signed, doesn't mean it was their ultimate decision. What were they going to say? "Yeah, we were kind of interested in Teddy, but, my god, not for that contract."

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Perfect. That's everything I could ask for from Rhule at this point. I am so damn excited for this offseaeon. Bring in great people and let them do their specialty. What an idea.

Also he praises Marty for being able to do these things but Marty was just fired. That bit of coachspeak was interesting, if he could do it he would still be doing it.

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2 hours ago, Varking said:

Everything said here sounds great. People mocked Rhule for saying he was looking forward to working with Cam and then Cam got cut and people bashed Rhule for it. Maybe he didn’t actually want Teddy and that was a Hurney choice. Maybe Rhule told Hurney he wanted a bridge QB to find his own guy so don’t extend Newton and Hurney took that as cut Cam and bring in Bridgewater. At that point what is the coach going to say? We didn’t want him here? He’s going to compliment Teddy. Coaches compliment their starter. 
 

The Teddy contract might have been the undoing of Hurney because it’s clear Teddy isn’t the guy and they gave it long enough to scout it out and see it. 

This would mean that we are running a very dysfunctional franchise. I highly doubt that. There are to many tollgate for a business this large for that to happen. 

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I see it as a very simple scenario. The GM can't be a person sitting in an office trying to execute a strategy that doesn't align with the coach or rest of the program. Thy need to be excellent at executing on strategy that comes from or is developed jointly with the coaching staff.

You can't have Hurney possibly making decisions about your starting QB on his own and you damn sure better not have Gentlemen releasing your best players or rescinding their tags and leaving coaches trying to adjust .

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2 hours ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Weirdly enough. I’m okay with the contract. He’s out after this year, and he can mentor Fields or Wilson. I’m good. 

His cap amount this year was 14 million which was very reasonable given Bridgewater was a top QB free agent target last winter. Bridgewater will be here in 2021 as the starter or mentor backup and will count 23 million next year. We only save 3 million cutting him unless we make it a post June 1st cut. So if he doesn't work out in 2021 we take a 5 million dead cap hit and move on. It will have cost us 42 million over 3 years and not really handicapped us given starter contracts have been in the 25 to 40 million range per year.

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31 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

His cap amount this year was 14 million which was very reasonable given Bridgewater was a top QB free agent target last winter. Bridgewater will be here in 2021 as the starter or mentor backup and will count 23 million next year. We only save 3 million cutting him unless we make it a post June 1st cut. So if he doesn't work out in 2021 we take a 5 million dead cap hit and move on. It will have cost us 42 million over 3 years and not really handicapped us given starter contracts have been in the 25 to 40 million range per year.

I meant after next year. My fault. 

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4 hours ago, Varking said:

Everything said here sounds great. People mocked Rhule for saying he was looking forward to working with Cam and then Cam got cut and people bashed Rhule for it. Maybe he didn’t actually want Teddy and that was a Hurney choice. Maybe Rhule told Hurney he wanted a bridge QB to find his own guy so don’t extend Newton and Hurney took that as cut Cam and bring in Bridgewater. At that point what is the coach going to say? We didn’t want him here? He’s going to compliment Teddy. Coaches compliment their starter. 
 

The Teddy contract might have been the undoing of Hurney because it’s clear Teddy isn’t the guy and they gave it long enough to scout it out and see it. 

imo this is worth its own thread 

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