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Let's talk about Darnold


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Yes, this topic has come up before, but having seen us drop out of range for a top QB (unless we give up the farm), I think he would be a viable option to build around with out giving up much.

A couple of points -

Darnold was higher rated coming out of college than both Fields and Wilson. He has struggled, but I think it's fair to say that working with Gase, whose track record is less stellar than, say, Rivera's - whom some say ruined Newton's career - doesn't give us much of a picture of his potential.

Darnold is still only 23, has a lot of potential, and still cheap. Darnold is younger now that Burrow, who many fans would love to have right now, has more arm talent and with coaching can develop better decisions making.

Lastly, a second or 3rd round pick is a much more reasonable gamble, than say a giving a up a one next year to move up. If it doesn't work out, you can still try next year, and you could come away with a cornerstone defensive player like Parsons, or a great OT like Slater 

In short, if the Jets go with a QB, take a chance, trade for Darnold.

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A second would be too high IMO. He might be a player to consider if the QBs we want aren’t there. Grab a good LT and try to get Darnold for a 3rd, C in the second and extend Moton. If would give him the best line he has has plus weapons in CMC, Moore, Anderson, and any FAs we sign.

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I would absolutely give up a 3rd round pick for Darnold. But....I think the Jets are going to draft Sewell and have an all-pro caliber OL and develop Darnold with a different coach. They’re at the bottom of the league in sacks allowed.

Darnold has a better arm than everyone in this class other than Lawrence. Get him out of NY and with a capable supporting cast and I think he’s a playoff capable QB. So..if the opportunity is there to trade for him I would absolutely do that and let him compete with TB for the starting spot. Then spend the first round pick on another position we need like MLB, CB, TE. Coming out of the draft with Parsons, Farley, or Pitts and Darnold for a 3rd would be a win.

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Why would we give up anything for this guy?  I do get it, his coaching has been awful.  NO DOUBT.  But man, watch his decision making.  He makes some really sketchy decisions at times.  I'd say you could coach that out of him - perhaps - but he's been doing stuff like that since college.

Would I give up a CONDITIONAL 2022 pick?  Yea, I might.  If he makes the team, we give up a 6th, if he starts half or more of our games, a 3rd.  That's the only way I'd touch him.

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3 hours ago, unicar15 said:

I would absolutely give up a 3rd round pick for Darnold. But....I think the Jets are going to draft Sewell and have an all-pro caliber OL and develop Darnold with a different coach. They’re at the bottom of the league in sacks allowed.

Darnold has a better arm than everyone in this class other than Lawrence. Get him out of NY and with a capable supporting cast and I think he’s a playoff capable QB. So..if the opportunity is there to trade for him I would absolutely do that and let him compete with TB for the starting spot. Then spend the first round pick on another position we need like MLB, CB, TE. Coming out of the draft with Parsons, Farley, or Pitts and Darnold for a 3rd would be a win.

Better arm?

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If we're gonna kick the tires on any current NFL QB, my pick is Carr.

Dude is seriously slept on and Gruden really, really wants him gone for whatever reason. Absolutely can win a ring with him.

That said, I'd rather take the faller from Lance, Fields or Wilson (my current order.) 

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15 minutes ago, NAS said:

Worth kicking the tires but only if he is released. I wouldn’t trade for him.

That's not going to happen until after the draft so you have to decide whether Darnold is your target and draft accordingly.  If we win on Sunday this might be the best option for QB. 

I think Darnold would thrive in this system.  He'll have plenty of weapons.

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23 minutes ago, NAS said:

Worth kicking the tires but only if he is released. I wouldn’t trade for him.

Somebody will trade for him. If an nfl team traded for Rosen, no way Darnold goes long enough to get released. Redskins, colts, patriots... Someone will trade for him.

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If he were released and just out there on the free agent market with a low, low price tag, sure. 

Actually trade for him? Would you buy a relatively new car that had been driven around wildly by someone who wasn't just a bad driver, but who had apparently driven it with the intention of damaging it to the point that someone was going to have to buy them a new one? Would you pay full market value for it?

He might make a good reclamation project, but I'm just not sure he's worth what the Kelly Blue Book says right now, if you catch the metaphor.

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