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Mr. Scot

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

I might like Sam Howell better than any of the current three behind Lawrence.

I have Howell/Wilson really really close, and could see Howell edging him out due to Wilson's previous shoulder injury. 

Howell and Shough above Fields or Lance.

Rattler above all of them except for Lawrence.

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18 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Let's say we don't get a true franchise quarterback this year but we do get somebody who's decent and an improvement over Bridgewater...

Will that be enough to hold you until we can try again next year or in the near future?

Or will it be torches and pitchforks time?

I just want to see an improvement of the team. 

The QB is the final piece of a Championship team, but it isn't the only piece.

I'd be fine with them starting Bridgewater next year - but I don't think that's going to happen regardless. It's pretty clear that something has gone on behind the scenes and feelings have been hurt. 

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12 minutes ago, FakePlasticTrees said:

If you do not get a potential or actual franchise QB this year then they have lost me as a suffering fan. My view would be get back to me when you happen to be in a Super Bowl conversation. I will simply not invest my resources, emotional or financial, in this team. Hope buys time. A lack of hope buys boredom, futility, and fatalism.

This is a pretty trash take.

Panthers could try their hardest and yet it is possible Watson isn't traded or if he is, we're out-bidded.  It is possible the Panthers are outbidded for the #3 or #4 overall pick in a trade-up and we're stuck at #8.

Lot of things to happen.  If you are gonna stop caring about the team because they can't get a QB this offseason, then that is lousy IMO.  It isn't like we're not putting in the effort.  Last thing the Panthers need to do is reach for a QB for the sake of doing it.

All we can ask from them is to do their best and that is what they are doing by all accounts.

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As I recall the new management indicated last year that they were building with the long view in mind, not a quick fix.

So, I'd be satisfied with the Panthers building a robust O line and upgrading the DBs/backfield for this coming season.  That alone would go a long way towards creating the conditions in which a young QB could thrive.  

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This franchise is about 28 years old.  Kerry Collins and Cam Newton are the only franchise QBs we drafted in the first round.  No wonder we have no rings.

We have been to 2 super bowls, 1 was a first overall pick and the other was an undrafted QB who sat the bench in NFL Europe before getting a bench job in the NFL behind the unimpressive Aaron Brooks.   So who knows what the formula is.  We have a big cap number available next year--so if we could get the QB now, we can sign the missing pieces in free agency in 2022.  I see that as our best chance for a ring. 

I prefer moving up in the draft if Watson is not available. I think we should send 3 first rounders, Thompson, Bridgewater, CMC and maybe even CB Jackson to Jacksonville for Trevor.

For Wilson, I might offer the same veterans and 2 first rounders.

For Lance, same thing.

For Fields, I have lost interest.  I think he falls to us and I think we might take him at #8,  (everyone thinks, what about Philly?  Detroit?  Philly and Detroit have better QBs than Fields right now, imo). 

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41 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Let's say we don't get a true franchise quarterback this year but we do get somebody who's decent and an improvement over Bridgewater...

Will that be enough to hold you until we can try again next year or in the near future?

Or will it be torches and pitchforks time?

Not a chance 

This scenario along with CMC returning after being out hurt much of last year.

 

Very Very unlikely we are drafting in the top 10 again.  More likely the 12 range.

 

Now some here are getting sticker shock now about what it would take for QB3 this year....... From 8.

 

Now, what do you think it'll look like to move from 12?

Its going to be a haul

 

And if your nervous now giving up that much, your're not going to be happy then.

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39 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Let's say we don't get a true franchise quarterback this year but we do get somebody who's decent and an improvement over Bridgewater...

Will that be enough to hold you until we can try again next year or in the near future?

Or will it be torches and pitchforks time?

It better be Derek Carr or better.

Nothing less.

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40 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I might like Sam Howell better than any of the current three behind Lawrence.

That dude gives me some serious Will Grier vibes. Looking strictly at college tape of course. Both have/had a gorgeous deep ball. They’re play styles look extremely similar to me. Could be wrong though. 

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7 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Not a chance 

This scenario along with CMC returning after being out hurt much of last year.

 

Very Very unlikely we are drafting in the top 10 again.  More likely the 12 range.

 

Now some here are getting sticker shock now about what it would take for QB3 this year....... From 8.

 

Now, what do you think it'll look like to move from 12?

Its going to be a haul

 

And if your nervous now giving up that much, your're not going to be happy then.

If we were in a better place as a team, I'd be fine with trading up or trading away picks.

We have too many needs right now, but that doesn't mean we won't be in a better place later.

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

If we were in a better place as a team, I'd be fine with trading up or trading away picks.

We have too many needs right now, but that doesn't mean we won't be in a better place later.

But are we really going to fill That many more needs this year that justifies Paying even More for a QB down the road.

Yes we may get a top CB this year and not give up next years 1st and 3rd and maybe this years 3rd or 4th.

But is that 1 CB that we held out for worth now traded up from said 1st next year (that would be used to move this year for a QB)  then the following 1st and potentially a 3rd 1 or a 2nd or 2 similar to the Rams trade up for Goff.

At some point your going to have to pay the piper irregardless.  You may as well get it while its cheaper.

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