Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

PFF says the Panthers have the 20th(!! LOL) ranked WR corp in the NFL this year


joemac
 Share

Recommended Posts

14 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

PFF voted 20th because of Sam and they think he sucks and will always suck.

That's it.

They're  a lot like the trolls here who bitched about Justin Fields not being drafted.  

We didn't have many receiving touchdowns last year and we lack a tight end. We were also very poor in the red zone. 

Those have to factor in. 

Hopefully this year is better in those areas. 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don't necessarily disagree with us being in the lower half of the league without Samuels.

Moore is excellent, but I don't really think that much of Robby. Everyone else is a wildcard at this point no matter how excited we are about them as fans. Marshall has to be the answer to our dismal redzone receiving issues, because what we had last year wasn't it, QB or not. We were probably better off fielding a 6th OL than a TE most downs as well.

I don't know that we're 20th out of 32, but it certainly isn't that surprising.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Call Me James said:

We didn't have many receiving touchdowns last year and we lack a tight end. We were also very poor in the red zone. 

Those have to factor in. 

Hopefully this year is better in those areas. 

It's amazing how a QB can impact a wr in both a positive (yards) and negative (TDs) way as Teddy managed to do.  You would have to practice that to be able to pull it off.

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

43 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Where would you rank the duo of Moore and ANderson?

Well, that ranking isn’t a list of duos.  It is ranking of receiving units.  Which factors in your #3, TE, etc.   

If it were a duo WR ranking we would climb up.   I’d have to think about that list overall though.  Present day I think we would be 3rd in our own division to the outside world though.  Which is what we are on that list too.    So we still aren’t going to be super high.  Top half though of the league.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, CRA said:

Well, that ranking isn’t a list of duos.  It is ranking of receiving units.  Which factors in your #3, TE, etc.   

If it were a duo WR ranking we would climb up.   I’d have to think about that list overall though.  Present day I think we would be 3rd in our own division to the outside world though.  Which is what we are on that list too.    So we still aren’t going to be super high.  Top half though of the league.

Top 16 duo? I know its not the pfffft statement, Im just trying to gauge your feeling on Moore and ANderson. NFC is WR murders row.....which is a big reason for me being "ok" with horn pick. 

Still I think Moore and Anderson alone should push that rating higher. I believe Moore is the only WR with 1200 scrimmage yards in the last two years. TDs are very low for both. ANderson is a 1k and long yard machine. For the first 5 weeks ANderson was either leading the league or very close in most stats. 

Where do you rank Moore overall?, please give a firm number.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

Top 16 duo? I know its not the pfffft statement, Im just trying to gauge your feeling on Moore and ANderson. NFC is WR murders row.....which is a big reason for me being "ok" with horn pick. 

Still I think Moore and Anderson alone should push that rating higher. I believe Moore is the only WR with 1200 scrimmage yards in the last two years. TDs are very low for both. ANderson is a 1k and long yard machine. For the first 5 weeks ANderson was either leading the league or very close in most stats. 

Where do you rank Moore overall?, please give a firm number.

As I said, I’d have the duo top half.   But there are a lot of solid duos that have better overall stats which factors when it comes to doing a ranking. 

I’m super high on Moore.   I think he is a lot better than his stats suggest.  QB play has prevented his ceiling from showing because he hasn’t had the QB play since drafted to take advantage of him. 

if he has the opportunity, I think he can have 89 level impact.   I don’t think we put him in enough positions to show off his YAC ability.  My personal opinion is that it is the best in the division. 

Stats aside, I think there is a pretty decent gap between DJ and Robbie overall though. 

I can’t give a firm number on Moore.   If there was a fantasy draft and I was building a team today? There aren’t 10 I’d take over Moore.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

im not as high on our WR as everybody else in here

DJ can be really good but disappears a lot...Anderson is like a Ted Ginn with hands...but not a 12 catch a game type...and we have had NO TE or RB production for a whule

hopefully the rookie can give us something...& Arnold at TE needs to be big time

having CMC back will help tremendously...with him we are definitely better

the rest still needs to prove it

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Damn the Tankers are already out here talking bout tanking?  
    • Looking Back at the 2021 Panthers Draft Class An NFL player's career on average is said to last just slightly over three years, and because of that, it's considered a general rule of thumb that by Year 3, a team knows what kind of professional football player a pick has developed into. While there are always exceptions to the rule, that's not the point of this topic. This is about the players who are still on the team after being picked up in the 2021 draft (or as UDFAs). Only four remain on the roster today: Jaycee Horn, Chuba Hubbard, Tommy Tremble, and Brady Christensen. Two of them signed significant contract extensions with the team (Horn, Hubbard) while the other two (Tremble, Christensen) received short-term deals that aren't cap-heavy. It's worth mentioning the conditions these guys entered the league under Matt Rhule's second year and Scott Fitterer's first. A ton of players were brought in that year, including a long snapper who didn't make the team… instead of Trey Smith, who just happens to be the Chiefs' starting guard (hey... to be fair to Thomas Fletcher, he did have a fun draft day phone call). These four survived Rhule and Reich and were seen as valuable enough under the first-year combo of Morgan and Canales to be rewarded with second deals. Jaycee Horn (Round 1, Pick 8.) Horn has all of the traits of a true CB1: elite footwork, physicality, and the ability to mirror WR1s... but his biggest challenge has been staying on the field. He's never finished an entire season, though to be fair, it's been rumored he wouldn’t have been shut down for the final two weeks of last season had the team been in playoff contention. He's got just 37 career games played over four seasons (with 15 of those coming in Morgan/Canales' Year 1). The team gambled on his production after seeing that not only can he lock down WR1s in man or match quarters, but he can also be dependable in a heavy cover-3 zone scheme like what the Panthers ran last season. With the recent free agent and draft additions made this offseason, expect Jaycee to go back to eliminating WR1s from the game rather than shutting down a third of the field like he was recently asked to do. Chuba Hubbard (Round 4, Pick 126) Originally seen as a depth pick with linear speed, Hubbard has outperformed expectations and emerged as the team's RB1 over the past couple of years. His 2023 breakout laid the foundation, but in 2024 he cemented his role as the lead back, showing much-improved vision, contact balance, and decisiveness in outside zone. He finished top-10 in missed tackles forced and yards after contact per attempt, all while holding his own in pass protection and producing on screens. Chuba doesn't have elite burst or wiggle, but he's carved out a spot as the leader and tone-setter in the run game. Not bad value for a Day 3 selection—positional value be damned. Tommy Tremble (Round 3, Pick 83) Tremble has been the kind of player every team needs but few talk about: dependable, physical, and quietly versatile. When he was drafted, he was already known for his blocking chops and has steadily improved as a receiver. He experienced his most complete season in 2024 with a 79.3% catch rate, 10.2 yards per reception, no drops, and a 108.9 passer rating when targeted. Not only that, he's been a consistent special teamer since coming into the league. He's a natural fit as a TE/FB hybrid in 12 and 13 personnel, consistently handling the dirty work in both run and pass situations. Brady Christensen (Round 3, Pick 70) BC has played all over the line both as a starter and as a back-up. We haven't seen the "short arms" come up as often as Rhule was worried about, especially against ATL and WAS where he logged over 100 snaps at center and posted his best grades of the year (76.0 OVR, 73.8 PBL, 75.8 RBLK vs. ATL; 85.2 OVR, 72.9 PBLK, 86.0 RBLK vs. WAS). While his overall pass-blocking grade (56.1) and lack of a consistent position might mean that he's the perfect OL6 rather than a long-term starter, he's been dependable when given his opportunities.
×
×
  • Create New...