Joel Klatt heard Rhule may not be staying in the NFL, could be eyeing position at Penn State

[run-run-pass-punt]

I know it's the nature of the NFL - and sports in general - but people are just *so* impatient. Often you jump out of one (perceived) bad situation and into a worse one.

[Harbingers]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Honestly, this might be best for everyone involved. It's just not working out for Rhule at the NFL level but he built two competitive programs out of schools that aren't traditional powerhouses to say the least. With the clout of Penn State behind him he might be able to build a legit contender. Then the Panthers can start over. Again. The question becomes then does Fitterer stay or go? I haven't seen much to hang my hat on him definitely staying.

I say let him stay. He hasn’t done much to the negative yet. Ya he inked the Robbie deal but we all know that came from Rhule getting his guy paid. He went overboard on CB’s. He obviously bought into Rhules program by going for so many later round picks but that was also a symptom of COVID.
 

The Canes did the exact some thing this draft, there were so many unknown in the class it was better to cast a wide net and know you’ll have some failures but also maybe find a gem or two. That said I trust the Canes staff and their farm team(s, junior league partners, foreign powerhouses they are drafting from) to develop their talent way way more than I do Rhule.

Let’s see how things go. Fitts is obviously playing into Rhule’s wants(which is probably what Tepper told him to do), for better or worse. If Tepper cans Rhule I’d like to see what Fitts can do with a real organizational structure and NFL coaching staff of his pick. 

I don’t blame Fitts for our OL woes or Darnold. Rhule definitely claimed to be some kind of prophetic player developer. Offseason “Great OL blah blah blah.”, Darnold being Rhules guy. Giving Rhule this much control was a mistake, but the alternative was Hurney. Another last fug you by Hurney. 
 

But ya, I haven’t seen enough one way or the other and his tenure looks like it will be tainted by Rhule, perhaps permanently. 

Edited October 27, 2021 by Harbingers

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

I say let him stay. He hasn’t done much to the negative yet. Ya he inked the Robbie deal but we all know that came from Rhule getting his guy paid. He went overboard on CB’s. He obviously bought into Rhules program by going for so many later round picks but that was also a symptom of COVID.
 

The Canes did the exact some thing this draft, there were so many unknown in the class it was better to cast a wide net and know you’ll have some failures but also maybe find a gem or two. That said I trust the Canes staff and their farm team(s, junior league partners, foreign powerhouses they are drafting from) to develop their talent way way more than I do Rhule.

Let’s see how things go. Fitts is obviously playing into Rhule’s wants(which is probably what Tepper told him to do), for better or worse. If Tepper cans Rhule I’d like to see what Fitts can do with a real organizational structure and NFL coaching staff of his pick. 

I don’t blame Fitts for our OL woes or Darnold. Rhule definitely claimed to be some kind of prophetic player developer. Offseason “Great OL blah blah blah.”, Darnold being Rhules guy. Giving Rhule this much control was a mistake, but the alternative was Hurney. Another last fug you by Hurney. 
 

But ya, I haven’t seen enough one way or the other and his tenure looks like it will be tainted by Rhule, perhaps permanently. 

Yeah, I just don't know how Tepper views him. A legit franchise orchestrated or just a guy to hold Rhule's hand and manage the books for him. If the former, then I'm sure he'd stay. If the latter then I'd expect him to follow Rhule out the door.

[Harbingers]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The difference being that Tomlin is a very established NFL coach.

God damn what I wouldn’t give to get Tomlin down here. Now he’s a player developer at the NFL level. The fugging consistent depth on that team. Holy poo. 

[Harbingers]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, I just don't know how Tepper views him. A legit franchise orchestrated or just a guy to hold Rhule's hand and manage the books for him. If the former, then I'm sure he'd stay. If the latter then I'd expect him to follow Rhule out the door.

Ya that’s a very fair point. 

[trueblade]

This guy ran back to college in Week 13. At least Rhule made it through a whole season already.

Edited October 27, 2021 by trueblade

[CRA]

14 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

I say let him stay. He hasn’t done much to the negative yet. Ya he inked the Robbie deal but we all know that came from Rhule getting his guy paid. He went overboard on CB’s. He obviously bought into Rhules program by going for so many later round picks but that was also a symptom of COVID.
 

The Canes did the exact some thing this draft, there were so many unknown in the class it was better to cast a wide net and know you’ll have some failures but also maybe find a gem or two. That said I trust the Canes staff and their farm team(s, junior league partners, foreign powerhouses they are drafting from) to develop their talent way way more than I do Rhule.

Let’s see how things go. Fitts is obviously playing into Rhule’s wants(which is probably what Tepper told him to do), for better or worse. If Tepper cans Rhule I’d like to see what Fitts can do with a real organizational structure and NFL coaching staff of his pick. 

I don’t blame Fitts for our OL woes or Darnold. Rhule definitely claimed to be some kind of prophetic player developer. Offseason “Great OL blah blah blah.”, Darnold being Rhules guy. Giving Rhule this much control was a mistake, but the alternative was Hurney. Another last fug you by Hurney. 
 

But ya, I haven’t seen enough one way or the other and his tenure looks like it will be tainted by Rhule, perhaps permanently. 

Well you have to at least put picking up the option on Darnold on him I would think 

[Waldo]

I would have never seen this coming...

10 games left, lots could happen. It certainly is on the table at this point tho. 

 

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 hour ago, Panthercougar68 said:

I’m not a fan of OCs that come from systems with franchise QBs. Moore has Dak and Leftwich has Brady…Nagy and Pederson leave a bad taste and honestly probably are some of the main reasons that Bienemy is not a head coach

One thing both of them have going for them is the strength of their olines. That's hard to ignore as an OC and I think it would take someone who has seen the value of calling plays behind a wall rather than a sieve to get us focused on building a respectable line

[Harbingers]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

Well you have to at least put picking up the option on Darnold on him I would think 

If Darnold is/was truly Rhules guy I’d say no.  Now ya, you could say all these most likely “yes man” moves to Rhule are on him. He should have put his foot down and said no on the 5th year but how tied were his hands? We probably won’t ever know that unless Rhule goes and he stays. 

[ickmule]

To me Rhule looked checked out during a few off season interviews.  I believe he will leave way before his contract is up.  

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[MechaZain]

I mean he hasn't succeeded at this level yet of course he's open to going back

[mc52beast]

Does “I heard” mean he has a friend who has a friend who knows someone who has a friend…