An ESPN analytic stat shows just how bad our offensive line really is.

[onmyown]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

FO DVOA rankings disagree.

We have had worse OL's than this.

Sad but true.

so taking into account better quality defensive opponents/strength of schedule?

 

[joemac]

8 minutes ago, onmyown said:

so taking into account better quality defensive opponents/strength of schedule?

 

fug a PFT. My eye test of watching damn near every single Panthers game of all time tells me this is quite possibly the worst o line, and worst offense overall in Panthers history. 

[rayzor]

4 hours ago, joemac said:

Why TF would anybody want to come be a part of this dumpster fire of an offense?!

$$$$$$$$$$

[kungfoodude]

6 hours ago, onmyown said:

so taking into account better quality defensive opponents/strength of schedule?

 

There is an opponent adjusted DVOA.

[ColaPanther]

13 hours ago, AU-panther said:

Washington Football Team is 1st and 2nd respective and they have two wins.

You better find a QB.

 

Gotta have an Oline first, but I agree we need a QB too. Sucks to waste CMC this way, he could have taken us to the promised land I think 

[Moo Daeng]

They look worse than the stats show

[BurnNChinn]

[TylerDurden]

Still there are ways to scheme around it and if you don't scheme around it, you're accentuating that weakness.  Several teams like the Chargers, Steelers, and Patriots have lines that would average out in the bottom third of the league and none of their offenses look as broken or dysfunctional as ours.  Also, look at teams like the Saints and Patriots pass block win rate versus their run block win rate...  sure, you could say its because they're built to better to pass block, OR maybe, just maybe, they're scheme gets the ball out quick so they rarely allow pressures.  It all goes hand in hand...  is our OL personnel garbage?  Absolutely.  Is it being exacerbated by idiotic, amateurish coaching even more so?  Absolutely.

[Waldo]

It's all bad on that side. It's like they built the offense to bring out the worst. Just amazing how bad it all is on that side.

[AU-panther]

58 minutes ago, ColaPanther said:

Gotta have an Oline first, but I agree we need a QB too. Sucks to waste CMC this way, he could have taken us to the promised land I think 

You don't need the Oline first, you need a QB first.  There are teams on that list with great O-lines who are terrible offensively because they don't' have a QB.

 

[ColaPanther]

56 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

You don't need the Oline first, you need a QB first.  There are teams on that list with great O-lines who are terrible offensively because they don't' have a QB.

 

It depends on what kind of QB you have. Pocket Passer needs an O-Line. A QB with the ability to scramble, then maybe not. The worst part is there is no really enticing QB in the draft - its basically either Sam Howell or the Liberty QB. 

[Snake]

15 hours ago, AU-panther said:

Washington Football Team is 1st and 2nd respective and they have two wins.

You better find a QB.

 

Atlanta has a better line than us and got beat by us. Better find a QB

[My Goodness My Guinness]

2 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

Still there are ways to scheme around it and if you don't scheme around it, you're accentuating that weakness.  Several teams like the Chargers, Steelers, and Patriots have lines that would average out in the bottom third of the league and none of their offenses look as broken or dysfunctional as ours.  Also, look at teams like the Saints and Patriots pass block win rate versus their run block win rate...  sure, you could say its because they're built to better to pass block, OR maybe, just maybe, they're scheme gets the ball out quick so they rarely allow pressures.  It all goes hand in hand...  is our OL personnel garbage?  Absolutely.  Is it being exacerbated by idiotic, amateurish coaching even more so?  Absolutely.

Nailed it 100%. Without a running game it’s much harder to pass/pass block. Without the appropriate scheme, quick decision making, and good routes by receivers who can catch, you are going to be an atrocious offense.

Its no one issue, it’s literally the whole offense. But it starts with personnel decisions and coaching for sure.

[rippadonn]

The offense is playing undisciplined football our TEs were f'n up royally too. That's coaching. 

The sense of urgency, attention to detail is missing. Understanding timing, absent. That's coaching. 

Drawing up plays is cool but when everybody's job is literally on the line you've got to make young players understand that part of it.

Every play may be your last opportunity. Do your job. Coaching.