Opinions: need beef on the Dline

[Jmac]

Along with needing an Oline, looks like they need bulk on the Dline also. They seem to get bulldozed up the middle by the run game time and time again.

Speed is great, but without some bulk up the middle it's a problem. Teams with big Olines seem to cause havoc and just push them around.

They need big bodies to stop the run on any consistent basis.

[WOW!!]

3 out of 11 games they gotten beaten in the trenches can we stop going overboard...

[frankw]

 

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

3 out of 11 games they gotten beaten in the trenches can we stop going overboard...

That's approaching 30% of the time though. Even if you win your division you're going to have to win three games against playoff caliber teams. Odds are pretty decent one of those teams is going to curb stomp you in the trenches. It needs to get addressed in the off-season.

[AceMan]

5 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

3 out of 11 games they gotten beaten in the trenches can we stop going overboard...

We should be 8-3 and a clear playoff team according to this logic then

[TheSpecialJuan]

Deactivating DT Phil Hoskins has been a mistake 

[WarPanthers89]

6 minutes ago, AceMan said:

We should be 8-3 and a clear playoff team according to this logic then

That has nothing to do with our horrible offense. That’s the reason for our record overall, not the defense 

[Fox007]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That's approaching 30% of the time though. Even if you win your division you're going to have to win three games against playoff caliber teams. Odds are pretty decent one of those teams is going to curb stomp you in the trenches. It needs to get addressed in the off-season.

He keeps saying that but whats so funny is it isn't even saying what he thinks its saying for more than one reason. You listed the most obvious and probably funniest one though that 30% of the time isn't good lol.

[Cpt slay a ho]

Yeah idk if it’s the middle or edge but teams running at willing is more gut wrench than getting carved through the air 

[panthers55]

3 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

3 out of 11 games they gotten beaten in the trenches can we stop going overboard...

Exactly and both Brown and Jones are 320. The problem is that we always rush 3 or 4 and our ends are light if we use Reddick and Burns.  We also try so hard to jump the gaps to rush the passer it is easy for teams to let defenders go upfield and take themselves out of the play.

Dallas used to combat our rushing game by using 3 interior linemen and 2 ends so the offense couldn't double any one defender with another O linemen and they played two technique on obvious rushing situations.  With 5 on 5 it is a lot easier to fill gaps and not get blown off the ball. You can still substitute other guys on passing downs but it really closes down the run lanes. And if I can figure it out a guy like Snow with all his experience should surely be able to do the same.

[Waldo]

Just play 3 DTs at all times except 3rd and long. Burns and Reddick as Edge/DE. 

[onmyown]

Yes, we need one stud DT and several olineman to be a real contender IMO. Another low cost high reward, raw LB/S wouldn’t hurt either.

Edited November 23, 2021 by onmyown

[saX man]

I thought Daquan Jones would be better than just serviceable/meh.  He's really middle of the road, and with that, we're not getting Derrick Brown to step up.  And then with Fox/Burns/Reddick flying around, we just don't have the big bodies to help clog the middle against the top lines.  YGM may actually be our better run defender out of the DEs but he's been on and off the field this season.

Games are won and lost in the trenches.  Both sides.  A real scrappy 3-5 tech is needed.    

My needs:

1. Better coaching

2. OL

*3. QB (Too early to tell w/Cam's return)

4. DT

5. LB

6. S

[Eazy-E]

This d line has plenty of beef. Phil Snow just likes to run 1 DT and a bunch of edge rusher when teams are running down our throats.