Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Robby vouching for Cam next season.


usmcpanthers
 Share

Recommended Posts

1 hour ago, onmyown said:

Only reason would be 1. He takes a cheap one year deal and 2. Understands he’s basically a lame duck until a rookie is ready and 3. A rookie comes in at some point. He isn’t the future and don’t see him winning a championship unless the entire team and coaching are above average. Need more for a rebuild.

It doesn't look like there are any great prospects for rookie QBs in this upcoming draft. Keeping Cam lets you put your draft picks into the OL instead of gambling on a rookie QB. Then you can look to draft the rookie QB in 2023.

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, trueblade said:

It doesn't look like there are any great prospects for rookie QBs in this upcoming draft. Keeping Cam lets you put your draft picks into the OL instead of gambling on a rookie QB. Then you can look to draft the rookie QB in 2023.

So does sam, he’s already paid, and it leaves more cap for others and reasonably provides a slightly higher draft pick.

On top of it all, you let Rhule live or more likely, die by his own sword.

Sorry but there are zero reasons to sign Cam. Just digging the hole deeper with more cap and another stupid contract, delaying a much needed true rebuild.

And yea Robbie is a dumbass leading the league in drops, who cares what he says.

Edited by onmyown
  • Pie 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I’ll take arod and Adam’s for top of the market money and trade Robby for 3rd or better or keep him and not resign cam… Love Cam and all but it’s time to move on… let arod take over all the decisions related to offense (hell defense too if he signs) either way we need to prepare for a qb coming in next year vet or rookie or both

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Says the second most overpaid guy on our team that has Temple in his background.

 

Cam coming back next year? If we don't get rid of Rhule, it won't matter. You could have Brady or Rodgers behind our line, with our coaching, and still be lucky to get five wins. 

How about we get a new coach and let that guy decide on Cam.

  • Beer 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Cam is the only guy on the field setting NFL records in a Panthers uniform a unicorn and still underappreciated by too many fans.

If you want to build a team next season to be in win now mode for the next couple years with THIS defense(players) you go with Cam for as long as you can and build the Oline through the draft and FA.

Veteran QBs usually give you the best chance to win as long as you have players around them, that can catch.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, jackson113 said:

If you watched the interview, which most of y'all fuggers didn't, when asked about Darnold Robby changed the subject and didn't answer...

 

Robby doesn’t say too much in pressers and spoke more about cam then I’ve ever seen him speak about anything else. 
 

id like to see Cam come back next year as a bridge to the next qb. Darnold needs to be gone. 

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Get us some competent Olinemen and NFL level coaching and we are actually a really solid team. Cam still has a little bit of superman in him and with how poorly coached we look maybe we can still get something out of Darnold. Our defense is solid we need two safeties once a better staff moves Chin back to LB. On offense we need to throw every available resource we have at the offensive line. Then in 2023 or 2024 look for a QB so he can step into a good spot with a top 10 defense and a solid Oline.

Edited by CmC2k
  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The problem with bringing Cam back is two-fold.

One, you have to re-sign him.  Why would Cam take anything less than $10m?  His deal with the Patriots was worth up to $13m.  Obviously, he didn't end up getting that.  But that is around the ball-park it would take to bring him back.  Otherwise I think Cam would just retire. 

So let's say he gets $10m.  

Then you have Darnold who is owed $18m.

So to get the most value out of having Newton as a starter as opposed to Darnold, Cam Newton would need to be $28m better than Sam Darnold.  

Who can honestly say with a straight face that the Newton we've seen throw the ball is that much better than Darnold?

It sucks but riding Darnold for one more year is, unfortunately, what makes the most sense unless we're bringing in a 1st round rookie or an elite starter.  We need to stop trying to put bandaids over other bandaids.  

  • Pie 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Mage said:

The problem with bringing Cam back is two-fold.

One, you have to re-sign him.  Why would Cam take anything less than $10m?  His deal with the Patriots was worth up to $13m.  Obviously, he didn't end up getting that.  But that is around the ball-park it would take to bring him back.  Otherwise I think Cam would just retire. 

So let's say he gets $10m.  

Then you have Darnold who is owed $18m.

So to get the most value out of having Newton as a starter as opposed to Darnold, Cam Newton would need to be $28m better than Sam Darnold.  

Who can honestly say with a straight face that the Newton we've seen throw the ball is that much better than Darnold?

It sucks but riding Darnold for one more year is, unfortunately, what makes the most sense unless we're bringing in a 1st round rookie or an elite starter.  We need to stop trying to put bandaids over other bandaids.  

Cam might potentially backload a contract with a different HC, I frankly don’t see him returning if Rhules still here. Of course that’s a double edged sword, but I could see him willing to say I’ll do 4-5 with incentives again, for this year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Oh, the high expectations after a draft. Keep your expectations low, people. Darin Gantt's latest "Ask The Old Guy" gives life to one of those lessons about pro football reality as a fan: "Rasheed Walker was a three-year starter at left tackle for the Packers, so Freeling is going to have to work. Hunter's got another big 'un in front of him in Bobby Brown III and a different kind of defensive tackle in Tershawn Wharton. Chris Brazzell II's got a lot of traffic at his position. Zakee Wheatley has to be better than the chronically underappreciated Nick Scott, and Sam Hecht is a fifth-round rookie at the hardest position on the line to play, who probably doesn't have immediate positional flexibility, and a solid free agent addition in Luke Fortner in front of him. "Fans generally love their draft class as soon as it arrives, because there is no evidence to the contrary yet. Once guys get on the field, the reality begins to creep in, and the seasoned among you remember that if you get three or four good players out of a draft, that was an amazing draft." https://www.panthers.com/news/ask-the-old-guy-things-looking-up-after-the-draft-monroe-freeling-luke-kuechly-bryce-young-derrick-brown Don't get crazy. Winning the draft (or the offseason BTW) on paper always leads to good feelings and great expectations, especially when you seemingly succeeded the season before, but let's remember that the Panthers are very much a work in progress. Team building takes time. If we get a couple of starters out of the draft, it's a good draft, but three or four would be an amazing draft, and anything more than that is actually sensational--even if entails a few multiple high end rotational players along with three starters. Moreover, kind of within that same vein, the coaches have to let the kids off the chain. Remember the coach-speak of past coaches about competition that is anything but because coaches have their notions about veteran experience? Not saying that they're necessarily wrong, but sometimes I think their reluctance to put the young guys out there is based somewhat in dogma or possibly fear because big stakes are on the line (e.g., their jobs). It can be frustrating to say the least, but the coaches are supposed to know best. Again, I say all of this so that we can remember to temper expectations and keep them within the realm of reality. It's like telling your mind to think of it as something akin to under-promising and over-delivering. Leave room to be pleasantly surprised for the best case scenario, but be cognizant that that rarely happens. I would think at this point, most of us should be able to recognize growth when we see it, and sometimes that growth doesn't manifest itself in the form of immediate supremacy, but a setting of the stage for long term dominance for years to come. It seems like we're on track for an emergence by 2028 or 2029. We still have huge questions, but by 2029, hopefully we will take our seat at the table of the perennial contenders in the NFL.  
    • You’re playing madden we’re talking real football stuff…. He does have you seen his special on internet he def thinks he’s getting paid 
    • Without the team having an identity kinda hard to predict what they value.  They either are really trying to build a balanced team, or preparing for another swing at qb if Bryce doesn’t pan out. Seems like we value the o line but the $ spent there has been underwhelming besides Lewis, you could say it’s because of injuries but still hasn’t been worth the investment. as already stated, the whole handling of Bryce young as a whole has been ass backwards, we spent the years we’re supposed to take advantage of having a qb with a lower cap hit, building the team up to be adequate. now It appears, key word appears, the saints have done it correctly, which is painful to even think about. Regardless, I hope the front office has paid attention to qb contracts recently, such as Tua, Kyler, Daniel jones(pre colts) and don’t settle for subpar qb play at franchise qb rates    
×
×
  • Create New...