Albert Breer on 2022 QB Class

[SetfreexX]

30 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We've consistently made the dumbest possible QB decisions and consistently overvalued former Matt Rhule college recruits since Rhule was hired. Pickett at #6 is so on brand for Rhule's Panthers that it feels inevitable.

 

 

I hate this, but I can 100% see it happening. 

I was in the Fields camp last year, hoped he fell to #8 and we took a f****** corner because ''we believe in Sam'' guaranteed him 18.8M BEFORE EVER PLAYING A SNAP. 

Now we'll get the Kenny's a 3 or 4 year starter bs, and he's ''athletic'' for the position. Blah, blah. 

My stance for this off-season was trade back from #6, swap with that team and secure a future first as a part of the trade, and some day 2 compensation this year. 

At this point, ride it out with Darnold, sign Cam, let them battle in camp, and use FA / the draft to solidify the roster. Then with our 1st, and the additional 1st from trading this year's #6 look to move up if needed to select a QB in 23'.

[kungfoodude]

45 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Why? Strong didn’t look like a good QB against draftable talent. Why weaken your OL by trading down and picking a QB who isn’t going to be a successful NFL starter?

Just what we need, a very immobile QB.

[ECHornet]

I hear the scouts and huddlers, but give me Sam Howell over Zach Wilson and Trey Lance. 

[thunderraiden]

58 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Why? Strong didn’t look like a good QB against draftable talent. Why weaken your OL by trading down and picking a QB who isn’t going to be a successful NFL starter?

I think he is inferring trade down with Washington and still get a great Olineman and get Strong in the 2nd. Strong still has the physical traits where he could be something after a season or two in an NFL program. 1 quarter behind an awful offensive line doesn't make a player.

[ECHornet]

10 minutes ago, thunderraiden said:

I think he is inferring trade down with Washington and still get a great Olineman and get Strong in the 2nd. Strong still has the physical traits where he could be something after a season or two in an NFL program. 1 quarter behind an awful offensive line doesn't make a player.

I don’t see those physical traits. 

[Panthera onca]

11 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

I hear the scouts and huddlers, but give me Sam Howell over Zach Wilson and Trey Lance. 

What do you see in Sam that makes you think he will be a better pro than Wilson or Lance?

[PantherFanInPhilly]

I've always thought the "I'm going to stop watching/following the Panthers until they ________" statements were kind of silly but if they select a QB at 6.....

[Eric4280]

Is it me or does anyone else really not want Cross?

[joemac]

It would be the most Panthers thing ever to draft a mediocre QB at 6 over one of the many top flight LTs that will be available to us.  This is NOT the year to be drafting a QB high in the first round.  So, of course, thats exactly what we will do. 

[Khyber53]

This is the year to go O-line, probably center, and do the wise thing.

Of course, that being said, we'll probably trade future draft picks and grab Malik with the first pick and just end up screwing the team for another half decade.

[BlitzMonster]

28 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

I hear the scouts and huddlers, but give me Sam Howell over Zach Wilson and Trey Lance. 

Trey Lance is a great athlete who sat for a year at SF, soaking up what an NFL QB needs to know.

Zach Wilson has a rocket arm and the charisma to lead an NFL team.  I don't know if that will happen in NY because they are such a dysfunctional franchise.  But Wilson is a player.  

I can't see Howell being anywhere near either of those two. 

[rayzor]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Is Matt Rhule still in charge?

Yep. Doesn't matter what anyone else sees, Rhule sees what he wants to see and thinks everyone else is missing it.

Pickett will be the pick. He likes him... probably more accurately, the idea of him, and thats enough for him.

[davos]

39 minutes ago, thunderraiden said:

I think he is inferring trade down with Washington and still get a great Olineman and get Strong in the 2nd. Strong still has the physical traits where he could be something after a season or two in an NFL program. 1 quarter behind an awful offensive line doesn't make a player.

If we want to improve this offense both OL and playmakers, we should capitalize on this WR class as much as the OL. A trade down scenario netting us something like Linderbaum+Olave is where I’m starting to lean. 

The QBs just look like career backups and rather erratic. They’ve officially deflated any optimism. Corral still has some due to SB omission. 

[ECHornet]

39 minutes ago, Panthera onca said:

What do you see in Sam that makes you think he will be a better pro than Wilson or Lance?

I think Sam has better arm talent than both. I believe Sam has a stronger arm than Wilson and every bit as accurate. I like Wilson’s ability to navigate in the pocket and keep his eyes downfield better. 
 

I think Sam will be more accurate than Lance. 
 

I also think Sam will be a threat in short yardage situations with his legs. He’s built similar to a fullback. My main concern is his feet and did the terrible talent around him last year teach him some bad habits with progressions. 

Edited February 7, 2022 by ECHornet