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1 minute ago, stbugs said:

I don’t know why coaches think timeouts are such gold that they end up outsmarting themselves. Waste 20 seconds and then double down on not calling a timeout (and basically wasting a play) with that run? Call a timeout with over a minute left and it’s 2nd and 2. Instead, 4th and 1 and 30 something seconds.

Yeah. The bigger thing IMO was that it was then 4th down, AND they had to use the TO. Just a big hit overall.

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2 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Tired of the constant shitting on Cam about his passing, when he was already good and still improving every year and had just reached the peak of his passing abilities when he got hurt and couldn't do it anymore. Anyone writes their own narrative for someone they don't actually like underneath it all for reasons not related to the field.

I'm never going to write the dude off. I'm going to think/wish/dream that every year is the year he can win a Super Bowl. It's going to be like this for me until he's 45. He improved so much from when he got here. He gave every part of himself to this team and the entire region and I want him to have that moment that the Rams players got today. 

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Just now, jopie87 said:

I'm never going to write the dude off. I'm going to think/wish/dream that every year is the year he can win a Super Bowl. It's going to be like this for me until he's 45. He improved so much from when he got here. He gave every part of himself to this team and the entire region and I want him to have that moment that the Rams players got today. 

Exactly, but everyone is going to believe the pre-draft analysis of Cam, no matter how many times it had been proven wrong, that he can't throw because they don't like Cam in the first place.

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6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

With the way the league is setup these days it's hard to see a non-QB ever winning the league MVP again.

Need to make a QB MVP award and an everyone else MVP award. Offensive and Defensive player of the year are fine awards, but just put the QB's by themself. Like what baseball does with the Cy Young. Just create a Joe Montana/Tom Brady award and have it go to the best QB each year.

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23 minutes ago, Tbe said:

No he doesn’t. I love cam, but he never put in the real work to become a better passer. He could have done so much to improve his mechanics but never did. Coasted on his running ability until his freak athleticism aged out.

Did you say the same of Delhomme when he selfishly tanked the franchise with multiple INT games for two seasons. Not reading the field with shitty mechanics. 
 

Just because Cam could run doesn’t mean he had to prove to anyone he could play the game like an average athlete. He literally carried the offense to 15-1 with scrubs with multiple freaks throws and clutch moments. And sometimes when your 6-5 240 and a sub 4.5, the smart play is run for 5 yards and a first then to trust Devin Funchess to catch the ball. 
 

If you look at way the Rivera the offense was ran and the statistical breakdowns of our play calls, we actually put Cam in very hard positions to succeed and more often than not he made it work. He was excellent in 2017/2018 before his shoulder got crushed.

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10 minutes ago, Butterflyj30 said:

Off Topic the Panthers posted this

 

 

Dumb they need to worry about getting an oline. Hell Moore will just keep having mediocre seasons because of it. Hell I don’t how to judge him since he’s never had a qb, I don’t think he’s even close to a number 1 wr imo.

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