Let’s talk about Haason Reddick

[KatsAzz]

PFF has Reddick ranked 31st overall on the market and projects his incoming deal to be a three-year pact at an annual average of $11.67 million. So the question is, will the Panthers fork that over?

With a fairly limited amount of cap space and a handful of areas that need addressing, Reddick may have to get that deal elsewhere.

[Jared Patterson]

1 hour ago, KatsAzz said:

PFF has Reddick ranked 31st overall on the market and projects his incoming deal to be a three-year pact at an annual average of $11.67 million. So the question is, will the Panthers fork that over?

With a fairly limited amount of cap space and a handful of areas that need addressing, Reddick may have to get that deal elsewhere.

That wouldn't be bad at all if its a long term contract. Can bump the cap hit further down the road too if you want. I was expecting 14-15 million a year.

[panthers55]

We can sign him for the signing bonus and a couple of million in cash in 2022. The big money will occur in year 2 or three of the contract. And if we don't guarantee everything we will be fine. The Panthers have folks responsible for fitting everything into the cap.  The bigger question is whether he played well enough to justify resigning him and that answer for me is a resounding yes.  Then again I am a fan and not a cap specialist so honestly I don't have to worry about the money. And honestly, as NO has shown the league, the cap isn't the stopper that folks think it is. I love folks on here acting as if they are some kind of cap specialist when the truth is none of have a real clue what can be done contract wise.

[rmoneyg35]

I don’t think he will get a big pay day. Remember after last year he didn’t get signed but for about 1 mil and could only get a 1 year deal. He had 12 sacks and only got that much? Because he’s a one trick pony who sucks at everything else.

[rah53]

I'm still perplexed that the Panthers haven't re-signed him. He was very instrumental in the defence being ranked 2nd in the league. I was even surprised that he wasn't a consideration for the pro bowl.

[BrianS]

4 hours ago, rah53 said:

I'm still perplexed that the Panthers haven't re-signed him. He was very instrumental in the defence being ranked 2nd in the league. I was even surprised that he wasn't a consideration for the pro bowl.

Can't be serious, right?

[Jon Snow]

28 minutes ago, BrianS said:

Can't be serious, right?

I know, right?  I say offer him a reasonable contract. If he balks let him walk.  He's a 3-4 linebacker anyway.  

[pantherj]

When teams run the ball on your defense at will, then you need to do some rebuilding. When you don't have a functioning offense and don't expect to have one any time soon, then you need to look to trade older defenders for draft picks, or let them go into free agency for their big payday contract. We need a GM who thinks this way if that is not Fitt's plan.

Some defenders are generational talents, or perfect fits who would be extremely difficult to replace. Our defense doesn't have anyone like that who is looking for a mega-payday at this time.

This may sound strange, but we need to get younger on defense imo. The plan shouldn't be to win now as we don't have a functioning offense. Keep the defense young for now, and use the trade draft picks, and compensation draft picks, to build the kind of o-line that any QB would love to play behind. Then hot free agent QBs will see a stone wall o-line and start answering calls from Fitt and not sending him straight to voicemail. This also puts us in a great position to draft a rookie and put him in behind a brick wall of protection.

Once we've landed a QB, and the QB has had season to mature in the system, our younger defenders will be coming into their own and wanting their payday contracts. THEN you pay them to make a Super Bowl run. You don't pay defenders who want contracts NOW. That is idiotic.

[electro's horse]

On 2/15/2022 at 11:40 AM, BurnNChinn said:

Henderson will never develop because he don’t care about football. Wasted a 3rd pick, don’t like it now and hated it then.

He played very well in week 18. 

Reddick is gone. Him and Burns are the same player. Reddick is not a guy you build a team around. Let someone else make the mistake of locking him up long term. 

[BurnNChinn]

1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

He played very well in week 18. 

Reddick is gone. Him and Burns are the same player. Reddick is not a guy you build a team around. Let someone else make the mistake of locking him up long term. 

Lol Week 18, when Bucs beat us 41 to something. Ok

[ECHornet]

On 2/15/2022 at 9:20 PM, Jared Patterson said:

That wouldn't be bad at all if its a long term contract. Can bump the cap hit further down the road too if you want. I was expecting 14-15 million a year.

Agreed. I was wanting to let Reddick walk for the comp pick because I thought he would command a $15mil+ price. If we can sign him for around 4 years/$40mil, I'd consider that a good deal.

[Seltzer]

Reddick has proven more than Burns has.  I truly don't understand the hate or why people think he shouldn't be a priority to resign.  Reddick is every bit as good or better as a pure pass rusher and plays the run better than Burns.  I like Burns, but he is a liability against the run.  Watch the tape.

I love the fact that we resigned Luvu, but I cringe to think that means we are just going to let Reddick walk.  I cannot fathom how people think letting a proven double-digit sack guy walk is good business.  

If we don't resign him I could definitely see Atlanta (who just released Donte Fowler) or the Bucs (to pair him with Shaq Barrett) will sign him and he will terrorize us for the next few years.

I had no opinion on Reddick to start the season, and thought like many that he was brought in solely as a Rhule guy.  And while there was probably a lot of truth to that, he more than surpassed any expectations I had.  People seriously need to watch the film. I understand the argument about being undersized against the run a little bit, but damn if he doesn't win against his guy in pass rushes consistently.  His pressure rate was near the top of the league.

You can never ever have too many guys that can rush the passer or cover corners.  Getting Daviyon Nixon back healthy and upgrading over Brayvion Roy will help playing the run.  Also, don't get rid of Denzel Perrymen.

But Reddick just had the best pass-rushing season since Greg Hardy in 2013.  He was Peppers level elite in rushing the passer.  Letting Reddick go would be the worst decision this franchise has made since guaranteeing $18M to Darnold.  Don't let one stupid mistake lead to another.  Resign Reddick.

[electro's horse]

4 hours ago, BurnNChinn said:

Lol Week 18, when Bucs beat us 41 to something. Ok

its possible to play well as an individual and the team as a whole to not do well

it happens all the time

[*FreeFua*]

Talent is definitely not the issue with CJ

Hopefully going through training camp with the Panthers helps him out