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Panthers may now be hesitant to trade back...


Mr. Scot
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I swear, these 'draft experts' are as reactionary/dumb as the hand wringers on this site. If they didn't try to create drama where there is none, they'd have nothing to talk about in the offseason. We have no idea how the draft is going to go. That proves to be true every single year. 

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24 minutes ago, onmyown said:

anyone else have an inkling the saints are actually trading up for a LT?

on the one hand that’s a lot of capital for a non qb

on the other, they’re not a stupid FO and probably understand the value of a franchise LT and they may have one that they really really like

Definitely 

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If the Saints want their QB, they can give us No. 16, No. 19, and a mid to late rounder then.

Still hoping this is all smoke & mirrors and we're going to just take the best OT available and finally shore that spot up.

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48 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Saints moved up to take a OT 

 

51 minutes ago, onmyown said:

anyone else have an inkling the saints are actually trading up for a LT?

on the one hand that’s a lot of capital for a non qb

on the other, they’re not a stupid FO and probably understand the value of a franchise LT and they may have one that they really really like

They had a good LT last year and it didn't help that much since they didn't have a QB.

Also the tackles they did have they found at the end of the 1st round and the 3rd round.  I'm not convinced Loomis thinks he has to have a top-5 pick to find a good LT.

I would be shocked if they are spending all of this draft capital of to move up in the top-10 for a tackle.

 

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

... in light of the recent moves made by the Saints (per Jeff Howe in The Athletic).

But there might be an unintended consequence with the Saints’ early chess move. For example, maybe the Panthers were hoping to slide a few spots to get their quarterback, rather than staying at No. 6 for Malik Willis, Kenny Pickett or Matt Corral. Now, though, if the Panthers’ preferred QB is still on the board when they’re on the clock, they might not risk a move back with the Saints lurking.

The same could be said for QB-needy teams like the Falcons (No. 😎 Seahawks (No. 9), Commanders (No. 11), Vikings (No. 12) or Texans (Nos. 3 and 13). Or maybe the Saints’ preemptive strike will cause those teams to make an early, aggressive move of their own. The Steelers, who pick at No. 20, also know they’ll have to contend with the Saints in the quarterback market.

Suddenly, an imperfect quarterback class — one that might’ve led to a more patient approach in the draft — might have just become the main draft storyline, with teams knowing they’ll almost certainly need to fend off the Saints to get their guy.

 

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I hope the Panthers keep their first round pick and select what should be a generational talent at left tackle. We haven’t seen enough for an extended period of time to know if Christensen can handle the position. We have needed a solid left tackle as long as we have needed a quarterback. If we want to take a flyer on a quarterback in the draft Fitterer can get creative and find one. 

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1 hour ago, hepcat said:

None of the QB's in this draft class are worth the #6 overall pick. Let the Saints trade up and waste their draft capital. They are great at doing that. 

If the Panthers didn't think Mac Jones or Justin Fields were worth the #8 overall pick last year, and they think any of the QB's in the 2022 draft class are worth the #6 overall pick, everyone needs to be fired. 

So you say. Neither Fields nor Jones actually lit the world on fire (and, yeah, it was their rookie season, but, still, they could have genuinely flashed more).

Each draft helps constitute a franchise, but a draft still must be scrutinized unto itself. Every year brings a different situation.

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36 minutes ago, Stuart Smith said:

I hope the Panthers keep their first round pick and select what should be a generational talent at left tackle. We haven’t seen enough for an extended period of time to know if Christensen can handle the position. We have needed a solid left tackle as long as we have needed a quarterback. If we want to take a flyer on a quarterback in the draft Fitterer can get creative and find one. 

None of the tackles in this class are "generational". They're fine. But not so great that we aren't going to see another one that great for a decade or more. I also highly doubt that multiple tackles this year would be generational, considering generational means once in a generation. Said another way every tackle in this class can be found again next year, or last year, or the following year, just with different names and faces.

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1 hour ago, KBRed said:

Unfortunately, Matt Rhule is playing for his job, and doesn’t care about next year. So, any chance of bettering our draft for next year, probably won’t happen. 

I think he’s stated over and over and over again that he’s always doing what’s in the panthers best interest. Nobody has ever said he’s on the hot seat. We assume it, but I don’t think it to be the case. 

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if there's any draft class where you can find a lesser hyped QB to take a chance on in the late rounds who might be a diamond in the rough, it's this one.

all this maneuvering makes the #6 pick all that more valuable for teams jockeying for position to get whoever. the potential draft capital gained by trading back has more value to the panthers right now than a desperation pick for a QB.    

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