Jessie Bates III wants out of Cincinatti.

[mickeye76]

Local college star out of Wake Forest is having contract dispute with team that drafted him in 2nd round.  If we can make a decent offer including picks or players ( future pick and player Robbie ) we have cap room maybe to sign.  Logistics aside the prospect of two young talented safeties playing together that complement each other like a ball hawk Bates and a playmaker linebacker hybrid Chinn is exciting.  I get the cons of lots of $$ invested at safety and the loss of yet another future draft pick but the pros are possibly worth the risk.  This move along with development by Burns,Brown, and Horn could legit give us a young defense that is scary good. 

[LinvilleGorge]

I've been begging for a legit FS for years but no. We're already pretty strapped on draft pick capital and I don't want this staff trading anymore future capital. They need to stink or swim with what they can muster up without further mortgaging our future.

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I've been begging for a legit FS for years but no. We're already pretty strapped on draft pick capital and I don't want this staff trading anymore future capital. They need to stink or swim with what they can muster up without further mortgaging our future.

Current history is not kind to spending wildly on safeties. 

I agree. Like the player but the price needs to be low and his contract demands probably don't make sense for a roster like ours.

[ThPantherFan]

15 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Current history is not kind to spending wildly on safeties. 

I agree. Like the player but the price needs to be low and his contract demands probably don't make sense for a roster like ours.

You are wise my kungfoo dude.

[trueblade]

19 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Current history is not kind to spending wildly on safeties. 

I agree. Like the player but the price needs to be low and his contract demands probably don't make sense for a roster like ours.

This. He wants out of Cincinnati because he wants to get paid.

[Shocker]

Bates is among the best FS out there.

[Basbear]

If not for the Woods signing, this would have my attention. Tho I have been trying to start Krob for the last two years, would be a big play true FS.......but Rhule/staff do not like his risk factor/coaching ears....

 

Safety is one of the spots the panthers are deep, plus Bates wants big $$$$$$, it's against my religion to pay them.. 

Edited July 18, 2022 by Basbear

[Jackie Lee]

Rhule needs to prove he can coach what he has before throwing any more capital away. If we're balling in October maybe entertain some trades

[Basbear]

Just now, Jackie Lee said:

Rhule needs to prove he can coach what he has before throwing any more capital away. If we're balling in October maybe entertain some trades

Whats you take on adding Payne?

[Tr3ach]

So many, I dont want us to try to make moves to make the team better because I want Rhule to fail.   Such a strange take as a fan.   I agree about not giving up too much draft capital but jeez. 

[45catfan]

Did I want to draft this guy?  Why yes, I very much did.

[Basbear]

5 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Did I want to draft this guy?  Why yes, I very much did.

#Metoo

[Aussie Tank]

I’d be all for it apart from I believe Safety is one of the positions you need to have on a rookie contract. 

[MHS831]

Personally, I think our secondary is going to be excellent.  I think we have 2 safeties, Hartsfield, and 4 CBs who should be ready to play (Horn, Jackson, Henderson, Taylor).

If we are going to pay someone some money, it needs to be a pass rusher, imo