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Was Rhule worse than Seifert?

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    • George Seifert
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TheCasillas Grand Master

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This thread is going to be full of recency bias. 

Watching that Seifert coached NFL team was tough to sit through. My dad had a suite during that period of time, that came with tickets in the 307 section. I always preferred to be outside rather than the box...  I showed up to every home game saying to myself "this is the game we win..." and it never happened. Seifert just didnt give a fug, he rode his 49ers pedigree and drove the franchise into the ground. He got progressively worse each season that went by... 3 years here as well... 

That nut had announced he would be back for another season at his presser and then was fired the next morning. For good reason. 

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8 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Yes. The team was competitive in 2001, they just couldnt come up with the W`s. This is the worst team next to 2010.

 

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

This thread is going to be full of recency bias. 

Watching that Seifert coached NFL team was tough to sit through. My dad had a suite during that period of time, that came with tickets in the 307 section. I always preferred to be outside rather than the box...  I showed up to every home game saying to myself "this is the game we win..." and it never happened. Seifert just didnt give a fug, he rode his 49ers pedigree and drove the franchise into the ground. He got progressively worse each season that went by... 3 years here as well... 

That nut had announced he would be back for another season at his presser and then was fired the next morning. For good reason. 

The 2001 team invented new and interesting ways to lose. This time, and 2010, you knew just had no shot from the start.

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Just now, Randolph Panther said:

I think Rhule was way worse.  Seifert did come in and turn a 4-12 team into a 8-8, (almost 9-7) playoff team in year one.  I think the poor personnel decisions led to that 1-15 team.  He also won 2 superbowls with SF and went to 5 conference championships.  

Ditching Steve Beuerlein for Jeff Lewis was Seifert's fatal error.

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2 minutes ago, Randolph Panther said:

I think Rhule was way worse.  Seifert did come in and turn a 4-12 team into a 8-8, (almost 9-7) playoff team in year one.  I think the poor personnel decisions led to that 1-15 team.  He also won 2 superbowls with SF and went to 5 conference championships.  

but then year 2 he went backwards and year 3 he was atrocious, for a HC that preached QB play and let Steve B. walk and then traded for Lewis... he sure did seem like he knew what is was doing 🙄

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